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1 4th November 07:35
rubend
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Default Zoo's toxicity



Any comments on that?

Follow this link and read this:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1083843

I'm not overreacting, I'm just concern.
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2 8th November 07:42
wayne sallee
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Default Zoo's toxicity



Yea some are more toxic than others, but for most
people, simply handling them is not going to cause a
problem. But yea, you don't want to make Glade
Plug-Ins out of them :-)

Wayne Sallee
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3 8th November 07:42
rubend
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Default Zoo's toxicity (reef heart fish back)


I'm sure everytime I clean my tank (BTW, it's acrylic so it is a PAIN) and
the zoo's start closing up, some toxin might be release into the water,
which later is evaporated by my metal halides.

My concern is, Am I or are you breathing harmful fumes? Does the skimmer
clean the water from the toxin?

If they are so lethal, why is my fish still swimming? Anyways, he's
replaceable, I'm not.

I'm surprise I was never told about this at the LFS, even McDonald's warn
you about hot coffee.

What about long term exposure? Aren't you worry one day you get a
heart/pulmonary failure, and even then most DR's will rule out your reef
tank?

I'm not getting dramatic, just wanted you see from a different angle.

Once I found out about this, my zoo's have started to multiply like crazy.
Even the one that were somehow dying are coming back.

They know I know.....=)

Ruben
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4 8th November 07:43
wayne sallee
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Default Zoo's toxicity (reef fish)


If your LFS told everyone everything that could go
wrong with your tank, they would not have time to
sell anything to anybody. That's what books are for.

I would not worry about any buildup effects. As for
the fish still swimming around, you could try this:
take some zoos and stick them in the blender, then
dump them in your reef tank. I bet your fish would
not be swimming around very long then :-) Even a lot
of corals and gorgonias have a strong somewhat toxic
smell to them.

Wayne Sallee
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5 8th November 07:43
a. paul ing
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Default Zoo's toxicity (reef heart fish back species)


Go buy a clue ruben. you breathe in more farts whch will be harmfull
than fuciing water vapor from a fucking zoo.Your a real fucking idiot
Ruben. Then again you patronize this fucking loser group with a
clueless leader named Wayne. Go join a web based forum like Reef
central or Creative Reefing, where folks in the know hang out in stead
of some out of date place like thhis on USENET. ONly foks on usenet
that stay are those that can not handle web based forums as they do
not know half of what they thnk they do so they are readily found out
to be clueless and dumbasses. Rec.ponds Moderated is a prime example
of that as is this group. These groups re frun by wanna be leaders but
they do not have clue and they seemto talk a good game to the idiots
looking for answers. They can not cutb it in a web based forum where
they wold not know a fucking thing.

Gill, Wayne and Kurt and most others in this reef group are fucking
idiots!

<<>>I'm sure everytime I clean my tank (BTW, it's acrylic so it is a PAIN) and
<<>>the zoo's start closing up, some toxin might be release into the water,
<<>>which later is evaporated by my metal halides.
<<>>
<<>>My concern is, Am I or are you breathing harmful fumes? Does the skimmer
<<>>clean the water from the toxin?
<<>>
<<>>If they are so lethal, why is my fish still swimming? Anyways, he's
<<>>replaceable, I'm not.
<<>>
<<>>I'm surprise I was never told about this at the LFS, even McDonald's warn
<<>>you about hot coffee.
<<>>
<<>>What about long term exposure? Aren't you worry one day you get a
<<>>heart/pulmonary failure, and even then most DR's will rule out your reef
<<>>tank?
<<>>
<<>>I'm not getting dramatic, just wanted you see from a different angle.
<<>>
<<>>Once I found out about this, my zoo's have started to multiply like crazy.
<<>>Even the one that were somehow dying are coming back.
<<>>
<<>>They know I know.....=)
<<>>
<<>>Ruben
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>"Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
<<>>news:f6gjoe$n6l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
<<>>> Yea some are more toxic than others, but for most
<<>>> people, simply handling them is not going to cause a
<<>>> problem. But yea, you don't want to make Glade
<<>>> Plug-Ins out of them :-)
<<>>>
<<>>> Wayne Sallee
<<>>> Wayne's Pets
<<>>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
<<>>>
<<>>> Gill Passman wrote on 7/4/2007 4:51 AM:
<<>>> > RubenD wrote:
<<>>> >> Any comments on that?
<<>>> >>
<<>>> >> Follow this link and read this:
<<>>> >>
<<>>> >> http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1083843
<<>>> >>
<<>>> >> I'm not overreacting, I'm just concern.
<<>>> >>
<<>>> >>
<<>>> >
<<>>> > I've read similar articles regarding the toxicity of zoos but have never
<<>>> > seen any notices regarding this in any of the LFS's I frequent, even
<<>>> > though they generally clearly mark stuff as toxic if it is, nor seen
<<>>> > them take any particular precautions when handling them. I wonder if the
<<>>> > laid back attitude to them is because they are so common. I also wonder
<<>>> > if some species are more toxic than others and whether the everyday
<<>>> > button polyps on sale are of the less toxic variety. From reading the
<<>>> > post it sounded as if the OP was trying to rid himself of "pest" zoos
<<>>> > from his LR......
<<>>> >
<<>>> > Gill
<<>>
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6 8th November 07:43
rubend
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Default Zoo's toxicity (simple)


I understand what you are saying.

But a simple :"That's toxic and might or might not kill you" would be
appropiate.

McDonald's does after a lawsuit about their "HOT" coffee.

I'm not saying I'd rather been coffee burned than killed, I just wants a
little short warning so I could decide to take the risk.

That's all.

Disclosure.

Ruben
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7 8th November 07:43
wayne sallee
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Default Zoo's toxicity (fish)


I doubt that McDonald's employees say that.
Having it preprinted on a container is different.

And since fish bags are for all things, that method
would not work.

Wayne Sallee
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8 8th November 07:43
a. paul ing
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Default Zoo's toxicity (reef heart fish back simple)


If you do not listen to MIss Wayne she gets her panties all in a wad
and gets sulled up and may dissapear for a few days............heaven
forbide.....


<<>>I doubt that McDonald's employees say that.
<<>>Having it preprinted on a container is different.
<<>>
<<>>And since fish bags are for all things, that method
<<>>would not work.
<<>>
<<>>Wayne Sallee
<<>>Wayne's Pets
<<>>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
<<>>
<<>>RubenD wrote on 7/4/2007 6:57 PM:
<<>>> I understand what you are saying.
<<>>>
<<>>> But a simple :"That's toxic and might or might not kill you" would be
<<>>> appropiate.
<<>>>
<<>>> McDonald's does after a lawsuit about their "HOT" coffee.
<<>>>
<<>>> I'm not saying I'd rather been coffee burned than killed, I just wants a
<<>>> little short warning so I could decide to take the risk.
<<>>>
<<>>> That's all.
<<>>>
<<>>> Disclosure.
<<>>>
<<>>> Ruben
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
<<>>> news:f6h06e$rde$1@registered.motzarella.org...
<<>>>> If your LFS told everyone everything that could go
<<>>>> wrong with your tank, they would not have time to
<<>>>> sell anything to anybody. That's what books are for.
<<>>>>
<<>>>> I would not worry about any buildup effects. As for
<<>>>> the fish still swimming around, you could try this:
<<>>>> take some zoos and stick them in the blender, then
<<>>>> dump them in your reef tank. I bet your fish would
<<>>>> not be swimming around very long then :-) Even a lot
<<>>>> of corals and gorgonias have a strong somewhat toxic
<<>>>> smell to them.
<<>>>>
<<>>>> Wayne Sallee
<<>>>> Wayne's Pets
<<>>>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
<<>>>>
<<>>>> RubenD wrote on 7/4/2007 3:55 PM:
<<>>>>> I'm sure everytime I clean my tank (BTW, it's acrylic so it is a PAIN)
<<>>> and
<<>>>>> the zoo's start closing up, some toxin might be release into the water,
<<>>>>> which later is evaporated by my metal halides.
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> My concern is, Am I or are you breathing harmful fumes? Does the
<<>>> skimmer
<<>>>>> clean the water from the toxin?
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> If they are so lethal, why is my fish still swimming? Anyways, he's
<<>>>>> replaceable, I'm not.
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> I'm surprise I was never told about this at the LFS, even McDonald's
<<>>> warn
<<>>>>> you about hot coffee.
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> What about long term exposure? Aren't you worry one day you get a
<<>>>>> heart/pulmonary failure, and even then most DR's will rule out your
<<>>> reef
<<>>>>> tank?
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> I'm not getting dramatic, just wanted you see from a different angle.
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> Once I found out about this, my zoo's have started to multiply like
<<>>> crazy.
<<>>>>> Even the one that were somehow dying are coming back.
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> They know I know.....=)
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> Ruben
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>>
<<>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
<<>>>>> news:f6gjoe$n6l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
<<>>>>>> Yea some are more toxic than others, but for most
<<>>>>>> people, simply handling them is not going to cause a
<<>>>>>> problem. But yea, you don't want to make Glade
<<>>>>>> Plug-Ins out of them :-)
<<>>>>>>
<<>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
<<>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
<<>>>>>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
<<>>>>>>
<<>>>>>> Gill Passman wrote on 7/4/2007 4:51 AM:
<<>>>>>>> RubenD wrote:
<<>>>>>>>> Any comments on that?
<<>>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>>> Follow this link and read this:
<<>>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>>> http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1083843
<<>>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>>> I'm not overreacting, I'm just concern.
<<>>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>> I've read similar articles regarding the toxicity of zoos but have
<<>>> never
<<>>>>>>> seen any notices regarding this in any of the LFS's I frequent, even
<<>>>>>>> though they generally clearly mark stuff as toxic if it is, nor seen
<<>>>>>>> them take any particular precautions when handling them. I wonder if
<<>>> the
<<>>>>>>> laid back attitude to them is because they are so common. I also
<<>>> wonder
<<>>>>>>> if some species are more toxic than others and whether the everyday
<<>>>>>>> button polyps on sale are of the less toxic variety. From reading the
<<>>>>>>> post it sounded as if the OP was trying to rid himself of "pest" zoos
<<>>>>>>> from his LR......
<<>>>>>>>
<<>>>>>>> Gill
<<>>>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
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9 8th November 07:43
a. paul ing
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hahahahahhahahah.


<<>>On Jul 4, 8:38?am, A. Paul Ing <tristansaintjohnREM...@yahoo.com>
<<>>wrote:
<<>>> Probably no worse than licking that pussy of yours!
<<>>
<<>>LOL
<<>>>
<<>>> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:51:00 +0100, Gill Passman
<<>>>
<<>>> <gillnospa...@gillsfish.co.uk> wrote:
<<>>> <<>>RubenD wrote:
<<>>>
<<>>> <<>>> Any comments on that?
<<>>> <<>>>
<<>>> <<>>> Follow this link and read this:
<<>>> <<>>>
<<>>> <<>>>http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1083843
<<>>> <<>>>
<<>>> <<>>> I'm not overreacting, I'm just concern.
<<>>> <<>>>
<<>>> <<>>>
<<>>> <<>>
<<>>> <<>>I've read similar articles regarding the toxicity of zoos but have never
<<>>> <<>>seen any notices regarding this in any of the LFS's I frequent, even
<<>>> <<>>though they generally clearly mark stuff as toxic if it is, nor seen
<<>>> <<>>them take any particular precautions when handling them. I wonder if the
<<>>> <<>>laid back attitude to them is because they are so common. I also wonder
<<>>> <<>>if some species are more toxic than others and whether the everyday
<<>>> <<>>button polyps on sale are of the less toxic variety. From reading the
<<>>> <<>>post it sounded as if the OP was trying to rid himself of "pest" zoos
<<>>> <<>>from his LR......
<<>>> <<>>
<<>>> <<>>Gill
<<>>
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10 8th November 07:44
gill passman
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Default Zoo's toxicity (sting)


The only coral I was warned against was my Hammer coral and was told to
make sure I get it to retract before moving it as it could deliver a
nasty sting. Although not true of all corals, I treat them all as if
they could possibly be toxic or at least capable of giving a nasty
sting.....but really it is just a matter of common sense and research. I
certainly would not handle any corals if I had a cut on my hand, or even
put my hand in the tank. I've never seen any warnings on anenomes or sea
urchins either but they could be equally painful IIRC the stings are
also toxic.

Gill

PS Unless iced isn't it normal to expect coffee to be hot? :-)
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