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1 13th April 06:29
bruce l. bergman
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I saw the subject line and the first thought that popped into my
little bone head was "Oh, Natalie! It's for you..." But I have more
class than that, so...

Did I type that out loud? Ooooops. :-P

Chris, you want a winch. Warn and Ramsey are the big manufacturers,
and they make several different units for varying loads and duty
cycles. You pick the size that is at least your vehicle weight, if
not more to account for the suction forces of mud. An 8,000 pound
winch pull rating covers most small and medium pickup trucks.

Most people use the planetary geared 12V electric units because they
are the most compact and easiest to hook up to the vehicle. There's
also the old Warn worm-gear and spur gear units, but they're huge.
You can get mounting kits that bolt a grille guard over the stock
bumper, and ones with a custom front bumper with the winch partially
or totally hidden inside.

You can run an electric winch off the starting battery you have now,
but it works much better if you install a second deep-cycle battery
and a charging isolator. You can pull for much longer with the engine
off before the winch battery runs down, then you still have a full
charge in the starting battery. So after you've winched yourself out
of the stream and dried out the ignition system you can crank it over.

They make winches that are hydraulic powered which are used on farm
and industrial equipment that already has a hydraulic PTO system, and
if you want you could modify your truck to use one - they make
hydraulic pumps with a pulley and electric clutch if you have a place
to hang it on the front of your engine. Then you have to find a spot
for a 1 or 2 gallon hydraulic fluid reservoir, and stick another fluid
cooler in front of the radiator...

Toyota has some factory mechanical winches that use a driveshaft to
run the winch from a Power Takeoff box on the transmission. Though
these are usually ordered as factory installed options for the
extremely rugged conditions found in third world countries.

The PTO or hydraulic winches have a 100% duty cycle since they are
direct engine driven, and they can have much higher load limits. You
can sit there pulling people out of the ditch all day, and the only
limit is your fuel supply - but if you are the one who is stuck and
you've drowned your engine so it won't start, you also have no winch.
With an electric, you are good till the battery runs down.
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2 13th April 16:10
jeff strickland
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That's WINCH you moron.

My suggestion is to learn to spell.
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3 13th April 16:10
cheri
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Nice, really nice. Helpful too. Did that make you feel a whole lot
better hotshot?

Cheri
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4 13th April 16:10
l
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lets chill. We know what the guy is looking for ...

To the OP:

Just ordered a warn XD9000 ... dont go below 8000 lbs and Warn is the
best. Cant use a hydraulic winch as your pump is too small unless you
upgrade that....

will have some experience in spring

Matt
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5 13th April 16:10
jeff strickland
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No. I feel the same. Why?
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6 13th April 16:11
jeff strickland
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I will suggest that the capacity of the winch one buys should be at a
minimum DOUBLE the weight of the vehicle it is attached to. If this comes
out to a capacity that isn't available, round UP to the next available
capacity.
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7 13th April 21:13
jeff strickland
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A hydraulic winch has some serious overhaed in tha tit won't work unless the
engine is able to be running. If the vehicle is on its side or under water,
a hydraulic winch is no good at all. The ADVANTAGE of the hydraulic winch is
that it has a very long duty cycle, and can winch a vehicle up the side of a
ravine. Electric winches have a duty cycle that is only about 10 or 15
minutes, then they need a rest to cool down. But the electric models can
work even when the vehicle's engine can't be run.

Most winching only takes a couple of minutes, so most of us in the west --
deserts of Southern California and Arizona -- use electric models.
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8 13th April 21:13
chris
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Thank you very much for all your suggestions!

It's been really helpful. As for "Natalie"

Is she cute?

Bruce, "You Da-Man"! (LoL)

Thank you,
Chris
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9 13th April 21:13
cheri
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Thanks, I like that answer better. Sometimes I have questions about my
Toyota, and I don't want to be called a MORON for asking, or for a typo.

Cheri
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10 13th April 21:13
l
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Thanks, thats a lot more helpful for the OP !
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