This was on slick roads. I was controlling the front nicely, but I was at a
slight angle so the rear was trying to 'go around'. The rear brakes were
actually not braking much at all because of the ice, I was actually getting
more bite out of the front brakes. The ABS was actually releasing the rear
brakes because it sensed the rear wheels didn't have traction. I've had
front disk/rear drum before and had small trucks before and hadn't managed
to get a 'go around' like that.

Charles

GM would have been better off sticking to a load sensing proportioning valve
instead of a half-measure ABS system.
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Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

Well, good luck with that...at my age I need the faster computers
to give me an even chance out on today's highways...
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

I would have called it half-assed, except it almost ended up being my
half-ass! My brother at the same time had a 94 Mazda pickup without the
ABS, and the only time he had any problems is when some idiot hit him from
the rear at a toll booth. He had to STAND on the brake pedal with both feet
to prevent being pushed into the car in front of him. The guy that hit him
was doing about 40 and was driving an SUV.

Too many nanny state cars. If I hear one more person say they are safer in
a Stupid Useless Vehicle than I am in my Corolla, I'll know they flunked
their inteligence test and qualify for driving an SUV in Illinois . . . .

My ideal car would be a MG-TD replica powered by a 2T-C engine with the
necessary additions to supercharge it, and of course at least a T-50
transmission and some decent rear end gearing. Or maybe a Bentley like John
Steed used to drive . . . .

Charles of Kankakee

I was doing some research on OnStar and ran across this site...

http://www.chris-longhurst.com/speakingaboutnannycars.html

Just one guy's opinion, but he discusses ABS, design issues, gas
mileage, etc.

Especially the 'best safety device ever' at the end of the
article....LOL

I used to love driving my VW Bugs. You were right up front for any
accident....so you drove with awareness and kept out of trouble.

These nuts that buy SUV's and feel they are 'safe' right up to the
rollover...LOL

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Scott in Florida

Fantastic!

That guy would get along just fine with a mechanic I shot the sh*t
with in Arcadia FL (look on the map....it is the REAL Florida...LOL).

He said ABS is just a way to make a brake job more expensive...

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Scott in Florida

"A Democratic shift to the right risks inflaming the party's Angry
Left base, while a shift to the left would surely cost the party
whatever support it has left from normal people."

JAMES TARANTO Wall Street Journal

Speaking of the REAL Florida,there is actually a town named Lorida,
Florida. 8>)

I agree with his views on ABS. I had it on my 95 Blazer. I used to call
it anti-stop braking system. I caused me to rear end some one in the
snow in Pa and used to engage over bumpy surfaces when stopping like
the author said.
Chevy had sevral recalls to reprogram the abs computer but none of the
fixes worked. I'll never buy another car with ABS again.

I have my own on star system, it's called hiding a key in one of those
magnetic boxes attached to the frame underneath my car. Monthly fee:
00.00

I keep a non-immobilizer key in my billfold which enables me to get into
the car if I leave the Immobilizer key in the car or lose it. Then once
in the car I have an Immobilizer key hidden inside so if I'm far away
from home I won't have to have a new Immobilizer key made after being
towed in.

On ABS, I wouldn't have a car without ABS. I've driven many Ford, Chev
and Dodge cars with ABS and in the snow and ice they really make the
difference in control. The ABS in my Sienna is much improved over the
other cars I've driven. It pulses the brakes lightning fast enables
straight stops on ice, I've tested it numerous times in parking lots to
learn what to expect from the system. Even when making turns on ice and
jamming on the brakes it prevents spinouts. On front wheel drive
vehicles this becomes even more important due to the CG of the vehicle.
FWD can be really awful to control on ice.
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