andrew gideon

Given that you're in my neighborhood, perhaps you'll join us of the
Mid-Atlantic Pilots Association for our monthly dinner meeting. It would
be a good opportunity for you to meet numerous pilots, and see just how we
make use of our ability to fly.

http://www.midatlanticpilots.com/

Our meetings are in Little Falls, just a short distance from CDW. The next
one is September 9.

BTW, student pilots also attend. My wife is one example of such: eight
hours and counting <proud grin!>. She's taking her lessons at Mac Dan at
CDW. You?

- Andrew

videoguy

I too have often wondered why the airlines struggle with all the trapping of
trying to serve food on a plane. My God, a transcontinental flight is only
4 -5 hours, even with a stop somewhere. If you feel you can't go that long
w/o eating, bring along a PB & J or salamie on rye or whatever.

Besides that, I've never had a "meal" on an airline that I thought was worth
the trouble of trying to eat it with those silly little plastic utensils.
Of course, now we'd all have to use "rubber" utensils to avoid offending
the TSA.

GWK

cessna piper

Macdan also.

Thanks for the invitation, but I am going on vacation till Sep 15. I
will be happy to attend the next meeting, though.

aviationns

For now. However, nothing indicates that while the changes in the
airline industry are happening, increased surveillance and "security"
won't also be legislated and enforced.

Weather, distance and speed will also always be factors with small
airplanes when considering reliability for many business trips.

You make good points though! Interesting post.

gene

It will be beneficial as long as "everyone" doesn't run out and get one.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

richard hertz

I think you are off your noggin.

No opinion or comments on that - that is all speculation.

Ticket prices are hardly high in my opinion. I can go from JFK to BTV for
$49 one way. Similarly round trips from NY to FL cost less than if I drove.
Your logic is not sound here. If "oil prices" are high and will keep
climbing, doesn't than mean that GA pilots will also pay more, or is there
some magic formula you have?


No - it is due to the fact that they are grossly mis-managed. Any time you
sell a product for less than it costs to produce you run the risk of
failure... Airlines were going bankrupt before 9/11 and fuel prices have
been going up fr a long time. Airline ticket prices have not kept up with
inflation over the years.


Bankruptcies have been part of airline business for a long time - they are
not "imminent." Cutting back on maintenance is not an option - the industry
is fairly heavily regulated. You are not close to knowing the subjects you are discussing.

Ummm, many teachers, lawyers, etc are retiring soon as well. Most likely,
as in the past, they will be replaced with younger people who want the job.
That is the typical way things like this usually work.

How old are you?

this is one of the silliest postings in a while so I had to respond.

cessna piper

I was going to ask you the same question. You are the one being silly
and naive. Have you been living on a cloud?

Yes, airlines are heavily regulated, but there is also lobbying and
special interest groups. If the goverment faces a choice whether to
bancrupt the entire airline industry or lax some costly regulations,
it will most certainly choose the latter.

About ATC: you seem to be the only person in this newsgroup, and
probably the only person in the entire industry who does not take the
controller retirement problem seriously. Haven;t you noticed that
people in this contry haven't been overly enthusiastic about taking
hard and low-paying jobs lately? Why do you think so many jobs are
going to Shanghai and Bangalore these days? No doubt, new, young and
equally incompetent lawyers will replace the current generation of
ambulance chasers - who cares? Air traffic controllers are quite a
different crowd, you know.

You sir seem to have a very common "everything-will-work-out"
attitude. Sure, everyting will work out. Social security, healthcare,
budget deficit, mounting household dept, terrorism, etc. Just keep
repeating, "everything will work out", and it will.

gatt

Yep. My father worked for United (24 years, then they laid him off) making
sure all the special meals made it on the right flight. Endless fiascos
and scrambling 'cause if somebody missed a flight but their special meal
didn't, and they were given a later flight and didn't get their meal, of
course likely as not they were howling for somebody's job.

salamie on rye or >whatever.

Southwest does that, don't they? I've always felt a little conspicuous
hauling out my own food. Would love to open a bucket of fried chicken or
start suckin' on boiled crawfish heads in the middle of the last crowded
flight I was on, though, when the kid next to me kept coughing all over
everything and his father didn't tell him to cover his mouth.

-c

gatt

Well, Cessna Piper is a student pilot in a student forum and he's still
learning things, and posting thoughts and taking chances that some asshole
will jump him for not knowing everything about GA yet.

You, on the other hand, sound like nothing more than a condescending and
arrogant ass.
But, hey, you just "had" to respond.

-c

scousin

In article <10j9hofe1gefv78@corp.supernews.com>,


I ALWAYS bring food (and water) with me when I fly. First, they often
don't feed you, if they do it's normally pretty bad (or something I don't
like) and the portions are way to small.
To be fair I'm a medical student and always carry a sandwich in a
ziplock bag on me at work But the bottomline is I don't expect to be
feed. I'd much rather have more leg room (or a special section where you
will not be sat next to obese people ^_^).