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1 15th March 01:42
kevin kubiak
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I'm a new student pilot. I was wondering
about something. I'm going on a trip soon and I would like
to know if I carried a portable nav/com radio on the plane with me
would that be problem. I bought the nav/com (at a very good price) from a
friend of mine who no longers flies figuring it would be nice to have
some day when on solo cross country flights.

I thought it would be useful to listen to tower/unicom communication at differnt
air fields while on vacation to get some real experience. I have no intention
of actually transmitting of course, but I would like to listen in.
My instructor has had me communicating with ground conrol and the
tower during my lessons. I must admit, it is a little new to me so
I thought an opportunity to listen at other locations while I'm on
vacation might not be a bad idea.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Kevin Kubiak
Student Pilot (3.3hrs)
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2 15th March 01:42
saryon
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Under 91.21 it's prohibited:

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person may
operate, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft
allow the
operation of, any portable electronic device on any of the following
U.S.-
registered civil aircraft:
(1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
certificate
or an operating certificate; or
(2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.
(b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to--
(1) Portable voice recorders;
(2) Hearing aids;
(3) Heart pacemakers;
(4) Electric shavers; or
(5) Any other portable electronic device that the operator of
theaircraft
has determined will not cause interference with the navigation or
communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used.
(c) In the case of an aircraft operated by a holder of an air
carrier
operating certificate or an operating certificate, the determination
required
by paragraph (b)(5) of this section shall be made by that operator
of the
aircraft on which the particular device is to be used. In the case
of other
aircraft, the determination may be made by the pilot in command or
other
operator of the aircraft.


Each airline has their specific list of things that they allow
passengers to use (game boys, laptop computers, etc) but I don't
believe that scanners or two way radios are ever in the exception
list.

I believe United pipes ATC in on one of their in-flight entertainment
channels.

Good luck.
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3 15th March 01:42
kevin kubiak
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I would like to clarify. I don't want to use the nav/com
during flight. I just want to have it in my carryon luggage.
I'm not sure I would feel comfortable placing it in checked baggage.
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4 15th March 01:42
saryon
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Hm. I don't think they know/care what's in your carry on luggage, and
I doubt the x-ray people checking the bag will know the difference
between it and any other two-way HAM-like radio. Just take the
batteries out (have them handy incase the screeners ask you to turn it
on, I've had them ask me to turn on my laptop computer) but if it's
not turned on in-flight (and the batteries are not installed
preventing accidental activation of the unit) I can't think of any
other prohibition/reason it couldn't be carried in hand luggage rather
than checked baggage.

Luck.
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5 15th March 01:42
sfm
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Not a problem to have it in carry on, I do it all the time. TSA has never
even looked at the radio or asked questions. If they did I would simply
produce my certificate. Then explain to them that when I arrive at my
destination I will be using it in a rental GA aircraft.

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6 15th March 01:42
harry gordon
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Kevin,

A couple of months ago I flew commercial with my complete flight bag as
carry-on luggage and going I was asked to open the flight bag. As I did so,
I told the inspector what was in it and he said "have a great flight" and
that was it. BTW, I had my radio, maps, etc., in the bag. On the way back, I
wasn't even asked to open my flight bag. You shouldn't have any problems
whatsoever. I would suggest however, that you keep your radio in your
carry-on while during the flight. :-).

Harry
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7 15th March 04:34
ron natalie
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Just as long as you don't have a big red X on the White House on the Washington
TAC chart.
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8 15th March 04:34
jeffrey
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Not a problem to carry on board, just leave it turned off. I've taken my
entire flight bag with me commercially numerous times. Just run it through
the x-ray like everything else.
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9 15th March 04:35
gerald sylvester
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all one way or two-way radios are banned from commercial flights.
that simple.


Channel 9. You might have to ask the pilot (or FA to ask th epilot)
to turn it on.

Gerald Sylvester
UA1K
PPL-ASEL 12/17/03
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10 15th March 04:35
gerald sylvester
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I did something similar to this with my metal lapboard that
could have been filed to razor sharp and this is post 9/11.
Gerald
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