With everything that I have heard about Belfort, I would think people
should wonder who owns this company. Personally, I thought it was
SCROOGE. A search at http://www.nasdaq.com
revealed "No matches found" for Belfort Instrument Inc. So the company
must be privately-held.

A search at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Belfort+Instrument+Inc+owner&btnG=Search
revealed:

Reissue Applications Notice - OG Date: 26 February 200226, 2001, Cl.
340/601,
PORTABLE METEOROLOGICAL INFORMATION SYSTEM, Bruce R. Robinson, Owner of
Record: Belfort Instrument, Inc., Baltimore, MD, ...
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/2002/week09/patreis.htm


Then, a search at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Bruce+R.+Robinson&btnG=Search
showed

UtiliPoint International, Inc.
Bruce R. Robinson Chairman. Mr. Robinson is the senior corporate
officer
Responsible for strategic planning ... Bruce R. Robinson. Contact Bruce
Robinson ...
http://www.utilipoint.com/team/robinson.asp with a link to
http://www.quickstrategy.com


Strategy Advisors (http://www.quickstrategy.com/advisors.jsp)
include: Mr. Robinson who has authored "Strategic Acquisitions: A Guide
to Growing and Enhancing the Value of Your Business, and QuickStrategy:
A Proven Method to Focus and Guide Your Business in Rapidly Changing
Markets."

It makes one wonder if he reads his own books! If he had, he'd know
that Belfort Instruments is in the fast lane to nowhere!

Uncle Scrooges are everywhere, huh!

Yeah, scrooges everywhere! Thanks for the information! I checked your
sources and they were, indeed correct!

And, they wonder why individuals talk about them!

glenn

I think that's Individual. It only appears to be you.

Did you get sacked by them. In all honesty, sounds like they had grounds
to ;-)

wxforecaster

Ya, I'm wondering if he realizes the jail time per count of libel when/if
Belfort discovers this thread and then makes the easy trace of his now 14
different identifies back to his PC.

bashir salamati

:Ya, I'm wondering if he realizes the jail time per count of libel when/if
:Belfort discovers this thread and then makes the easy trace of his now 14
:different identifies back to his PC.

No years. Libel isn't a criminal matter in the US of A. It is in a
few other countries. But potentially a lot of money.

I've been thinking about this phantom. He's not a regular Troll,
after all. There are a couple of reasons he's doing this.

1) He's a former employee who was fired for cause
2) He's a competitor
3) He was a dealer or a suppler that they stopped doing business with

One thing he is certainly not - he's not an unhappy customer, or he
would just tell his real story.

I think #1 is most likely, of course. Has anyone called Belfort and
asked? They might know already. Or they might be interested in
knowing what's being said about them.

Mr. Salami up your a**:

You sir, are a big jerk! It is obvious you know nothing about freedom
of speech! anyone has a right to speak out, boycott, or post their
opinion for all to see! This includes gathering all available data,
and letting the public make their own minds up!

You know nothing of the laws and you are full of hot air! Take your
opinions, and shove them where the sun does not shine!

Your probably the PR guy for Belfort or something! Trying to keep your
job with them also!

Maybe individuals are just tired of companies doing and saying things
that they shouldn't! You appear to be one of those salad tossing type
employees!

Anyway, go crawl up in a corner, and lick yourself!

bashir salamati

:Mr. Salami up your a**:
:
:You sir, are a big jerk! It is obvious you know nothing about freedom
f speech! anyone has a right to speak out, boycott, or post their
pinion for all to see! This includes gathering all available data,
:and letting the public make their own minds up!

Certainly it does. But when you post - or publish, or broadcast -
something that is not true, and financially harms someone else (or a
corporation) they have a cause of action against you. I note that in
this post you are using a UK return address. That is not a good idea.
It is MUCH, MUCH easier to prove libel in the UK than in the US.
Basically, the burden of proof is on you, not on them. I suggest you
read a primer on UK libel law here -
http://www.urban75.com/Action/libel.html

Since the Usenet is distributed in the UK, and Belfort does business
there (like most companies now days, they do business anywhere there's
a customer with money) and you're using a UK return address, you
pretty much fall under their jurisdiction. It would be dead simple
for Belfort to print out your posts and get a multi-million UK default
judgement against you. How widely was your post distributed? Was it
likely to result in financial harm to them? Did you intend for it to
harm them? Answer these, you'll know how much the judgement will be.

How will they enforce it, you ask? It depends on where you actually
live, and how good your relationship with the local government is.
They can take that judgement to a local judge, and get him to issue an
order to the local sherrif to sieze your belongings. To do any of
that they'd have to know who you are - but I'm guessing they know that
already. I'll bet you had some significant encounters with them in
person long before you started this little defamation campaign.
:
:You know nothing of the laws and you are full of hot air! Take your
pinions, and shove them where the sun does not shine!

A brilliant and cogent argument. Congratulations!
:
:Your probably the PR guy for Belfort or something! Trying to keep your
:job with them also!

Hardly. Before you had posted I had never heard of Belfort. Since
then I've had to buy some weather instrumentation, and (since they
were the only company I'd heard of) gave them a small order. They
delivered faster than scheduled, their equipment has worked perfectly
since then. They've been responsive and knowledgable on the phone,
and very pleasant to work with.
:
:Maybe individuals are just tired of companies doing and saying things
:that they shouldn't! You appear to be one of those salad tossing type
:employees!

And you, in all your various incarnations, appear to be one very
disturbed person.
:
:Anyway, go crawl up in a corner, and lick yourself!

Another brilliant argument. You are certainly law school material,
Mr. Unknown Obsessive.
: :Bashir Salamati wrote:
:> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 02:35:12 GMT, "wxforecaster"
:> <wxforecaster@kc.rr.com> wrote:
:>
:> :Ya, I'm wondering if he realizes the jail time per count of libel when/if
:> :Belfort discovers this thread and then makes the easy trace of his now 14
:> :different identifies back to his PC.
:>
:> No years. Libel isn't a criminal matter in the US of A. It is in a
:> few other countries. But potentially a lot of money.
:>
:> I've been thinking about this phantom. He's not a regular Troll,
:> after all. There are a couple of reasons he's doing this.
:>
:> 1) He's a former employee who was fired for cause
:> 2) He's a competitor
:> 3) He was a dealer or a suppler that they stopped doing business with
:>
:> One thing he is certainly not - he's not an unhappy customer, or he
:> would just tell his real story.
:>
:> I think #1 is most likely, of course. Has anyone called Belfort and
:> asked? They might know already. Or they might be interested in
:> knowing what's being said about them.

Mr. Salami up your a**

Seems as though that salami is affecting your brain!

It is obvious that you know nothing about the law! YOU should stick
with the homo-community in which you belong!

Everything in this newsgroup about Belfort can be verified and is in
fact true! Thus, your argument is moot! It is also clear that you
know nothing about jurisdiction whatsoever! So take your homo views,
and share them with your boyfriend! He may giva a rats ass and give
you come of his!

The truth hurts individuals like you, because sooner or later, you'll
have problems and remember that you were stupid ...literally stupid!

I do NOT like Belfort for the way they treat their employees, and their
equipment has a lot to be desired! It is my opinion based on fact and
truth! Heck, maybe you can represent them, and see how far you get!

My viewpoint has just begun, and it shall continue as long as i desire!
So, go craw up your boyfriends A**!

bashir salamati

:Mr. Salami up your a**
:
:Seems as though that salami is affecting your brain!
:
:It is obvious that you know nothing about the law! YOU should stick
:with the homo-community in which you belong!

How very odd. We were talking about weather instrumentation,
international libel law and corporate governance. Somehow you've made
the leap to the topic of homo***uality. How is it that this is the
first topic you associate with the law? Have you had your own
unfortunate run-ins with the law and homo***uality?
:
:Everything in this newsgroup about Belfort can be verified and is in
:fact true!

No one has been able to figure out what your arguments are, much less
been able to verify them.

:Thus, your argument is moot!

Actually, no. While the truth is an absolute defense in a US libel
case, that is not so in the UK.

:It is also clear that you
:know nothing about jurisdiction whatsoever!

Again, no. The EU constitution is a marvelous thing. It breaks down
all the old ideas about jurisdiction. Belfort could - if it chose -
sue you for libel in any one of the EU countries. Now, they'd have to
have the cooperation of local authorities to enforce a judgement, but
I'm betting that the local constabulary doesn't feel very sympathetic
to you, where ever you really are.

:So take your homo views,
:and share them with your boyfriend! He may giva a rats ass and give
:you come of his!

Again, why are you so obsessed with homo***uals? Was your gym teacher
a little friendlier than he should have been? Were you trying to
learn a bicycle and answer an ad titled "Bi-curious"?

:
:The truth hurts individuals like you, because sooner or later, you'll
:have problems and remember that you were stupid ...literally stupid!

A brilliant argument. I do not see how I can possibly answer this,
given your extraordinary insight and clarity of mind.
:
:I do NOT like Belfort for the way they treat their employees

Which reminds me - how do YOU know how Belfort treats their employees?
Their employees aren't picketing, or taking out ads protesting how
they are treated. They aren't sending out press releases. If, in
fact, they are treated badly, how has it come to your attention?

:, and their
:equipment has a lot to be desired!

In my admittedly limited experience, their equipment has performed
without flaw or fail.

:It is my opinion based on fact and
:truth! Heck, maybe you can represent them, and see how far you get!
:
:My viewpoint has just begun, and it shall continue as long as i desire!

English is not your first language, is it? It's not mine either - I
didn't learn any more than the basics until I moved to the west. I
recommend that you spend time with native speakers. "My viewpoint has
just begun" is a very strange construction in english, like "all your
base are belong to us." A "viewpoint" is a single thing, not a
process. Think of a streetsign, rather than a journey. You have a
viewpoint or you don't. You might develop one, you can certainly
expound on one. You don't begin one. On the other hand, your
argument, or your diatribe, or your incoherent delusional rant may
have just begun.

: So, go craw up your boyfriends A**!

Mysterious Phantom, this obsession you have with my boyfriend's a** is
very unhealthy. You should seek professional help - either from a
qualified psychological councilor, or perhaps an experienced female
prostitute who can introduce you to hetero***ual intercourse. It
really is a marvelous thing, and you might find that you enjoy it once
you've tried it.

wxforecaster

Classic!

All your AWOS are belong to us!