rick

Believe it was the Conny in around '66-'67. I had a friend aboard at the
time.

Rick
P5M (SP-5)/E2C

don mcintyre

Is that the video they used to show during safety stand downs? I
remember seeing that and the JFK fire videos (well, they were on 16mm
film when I saw them). Can't forget "The Man from LOX."

Don McIntyre
Clarksville, TN

That's exactly the one - and yer right, "Man from LOX" still gives me
shivers, too.

v/r
Gordon
"These are your brains. These are your brains blown 200' in the sky by
spilling a bit of LOX."

dave in san diego

I used to get to show that once a month for an O2 safety lesson. The barf
board got at least one hit about every other class. Got 4 or 5 hits from a
particularly noteworthy class. If I never see it again it will be way too
soon.

Dave in San Diego

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|| That's exactly the one - and yer right, "Man from LOX" still gives me
|| shivers, too.
||
|| v/r
|| Gordon
|| "These are your brains. These are your brains blown 200' in the sky
|| by spilling a bit of LOX."
|
| I used to get to show that once a month for an O2 safety lesson. The
| barf board got at least one hit about every other class. Got 4 or 5
| hits from a particularly noteworthy class. If I never see it again it
| will be way too soon.
|
| Dave in San Diego


For the rest of us, not privvy to USN safety footage, what happens ?

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Cheers


Dave Kearton

dave in san diego

Ahhh..... Well, the first 90% of the movie is done in a humourous
vein, with some well proportioned, scantily clad young ladies playing a
significant role. A recently removed and ignited bra is dropped into a
puddle of LOX and immediately goes up in a large ball of fire. The line
"I gotta get this LOX cart back or the Safety Officer's gonna have my
ass" is uttered 2 or 3 times by said ladies in different situations,
adding to the humour.

This is all a setup for the final minute, when we get to observe a still
breathing alleged victim of a LOX fed fire, lying on a gurney at the ER.
An incredibly gruesome picture - just a bunch of red burnt flesh with no
hair or facial features.

peter skelton

I thought that stuff was for lighting BBQ's

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Peter Skelton

Dave, "Safety Standarounds" were a part of Navy life, usually scheduled
far in advance (think: dental appointmens) but often brought on by the
loss of a Squadron aircraft or a string of problems Navy-wide dealing
with that type of a/c. The scheduled ones were "Long periods of
boredom, interrupted by moments of stark boredom"; sitting through the
same decades-old flight deck crash movies, Forrestal and O-boat fire
movies, and the like, punctuated by long, rambling efforts to teach us
all some bit of safety knowledge that we usually knew better than the
pilot-forced-to-become-a-safety-officer-forced-to-become-a-public-speaker-guy..
Think twenty minutes of good gouge crammed into 9 hours seated on
uncomfortable folding chairs. Pins for your eyes were manditory.

Of a completely different nature were the Standdowns that occurred
after the loss of a squadron a/c, which in our case usually meant loss
of friends. They were somber and thoughtful lectures and briefings
with a little opportunity to ask questions and try to heal, as much as
learn from the mishap. Often, the mishap board wouldn't have answers
for months after the event, but we'd typically get surprisingly close
to the truth of what happened during the first few days, so it wasn't
uncommon to use these standdowns as a way to reassure everyone and get
the right word out - the worst thing in these cases was usually the
rumors that flew about in the hours after the loss.

"The Man From LOX" was a staple part of the safety diet for people who
flew or worked around aircraft; it was as much a part of life as the
flight deck crash movies and aircraft carrier fire movies. Every
Airdale in the Navy knew what was about to happen and watched the first
few moments of the Forrestal fire tape with the same anticipation.
Everyone knowing that shortly, they would see that brave muther****in
Chief in the Crash&Salvage silver suit dragging a large firebottle
toward the flaming A-4. In another moment, the hellfire of bombs
exploded and vaporized him before our eyes. Long before the rest of
the world knew who Senator John McCain was, generations of "g****s"
(fuelers), final checkers, and plane captains had seen his A-4
immolated in super-slow-motion on the flight deck of the "Forest Fire"
a hundred times.

That same ingrained training, just like the hideous last few moments of
"LOX", penetrated the hours and hours of boredom to program a response
out of each and every one of us.

When there is a fire on the flight deck on a Navy carrier, you know
what you see? Hundreds of sailors dropping what they are doing to dash
toward that blaze, in exactly the same manner as that long dead but
never forgotten Navy Chief. Every last one of them instantly knowing
precisely what they are going to do, and how. Whether they remember
that Chief at that moment or not, he is right there with them.

I hope those pilot/safety officers/public speakers are still boring the
SHIT out of young squids today...

yf
Gordon
PS, "LOX" should be a Stile video - its THAT gruesome...

LOX. I remember a grizzled 8-striped Line Chief at Homestead AFB
savaging a young rookie who was caught stomping on spilled LOX drops to
hear them bang between his boot and the tarmac. The LC was so eloquent
I wanted to take notes.
BJ

yofuri

Would someone refresh my memory?

IIRC, "The Man from LOX" had been filling bottles on Kitty Hawk and lit
off in his bunk from O2 absorbed into his coveralls?

Rick