anon3c67

Norwegian scientists who studied the health records of 43,000 men and
women have shown that even light smoking -- less than five cigarettes
daily -- triples the risk of dying of heart disease or lung cancer.

The dangers of smoking are well do***ented. Previous research has
shown that smokers die on average 10 years earlier than non-smokers
but stopping, even in middle age, can halve the risk.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050921/hl_nm/smoking_dc

todd benson

Minimization is a component of denial? Do you have a source for that one?

robert wagner

More bullshit. Actuarial tables say smokers die four years earlier in the US. In other
countries, the diference is as low as one year.

anon3c67

First you say I don't understand denial and then you show you don't.

Come on, Todd, don't be so lazy and do a search on "drug denial"
and become less ignorant. After you learn something, tell us
how the "democratic disease state" pattern doesn't apply to you.

todd benson

No, I am trying to show you how the "minimization" as a component of denial
is much different than the minimization of use as described in the article.

Instead of trying to prove a negative, how about you answer the questions I
have been asking:

What am I in denial about and what makes you think I am in denial?

ron freimuth

So, it was also at Yahoo.

"The study was published in the journal Tobacco Control."

Based on the name, they clearly have a bias.

Ron

robert wagner

I'm pleased to see you back, Ron. For those who don't know, Ron is an engineering hotshot
with a masters from Stanford, formerly with NASA Ames, Hewlett-Packard and some black
government contractor. He knows Maxwell's equations like a recent grad. He's now a leader
in Flight Sim software.

Tell us why smokers die prematurely in the US but not in countries such as Greece, China
and Japan, where the smoking rate is higher. Is it diet or socioeconomic status?

Collateral question -- why are asian and south american babes so hot, but hard to live
with? Extra points for a practical answer.

ron freimuth

You embarrass me, Robert. Master's from The Farm were a dime a dozen
in Silicon Valley.

Maxwell? ... Oh...... He's the guy who invented a Demon.

Some Flight Simulator ****pits have a "No Smoking" light that can be
toggled. I never bother to turn it on.


Likely both.


All babes are messed up!

RAF

robert wagner

He was prescient. Those demons exist in the ion-gated channels, such as acetylcholine
receptors, we've been discussing. Proteins magically convert INFORMATION about the
presence of ligands into ENERGY POTENTIAL, seemingly in violation of the Second Law.
Unless one believes information has physical properties. I've read that Shannon,
Kolmogorov and a guy named Kantor did some work in this area.

It could be radioactive Po-210. It cannot be acrylamide, because all tobacco burns at the
same temperature.

anon3c67

"Changes in lung cancer mortality occur 20 years after smoking trends
change. Worldwide, this disease is on the increase. For instance,
in Japan deaths from lung cancer increased from 2.7 per 100,000 in
1950, to 20.2 per 100,000 in 1979. Such increases are the direct
result of increased cigarette consumption."