cmiller12_not

I read the final version of the Senate bill. Its a difficult read. There is
section three that states that it is illegal to use the mail to ship tobacco
products IF YOU DO NOT follow the rules in section 2. Section 2 allows one to
use the mail as long as one collects all of the FED and State Taxes.

In simple English its like this.
You must follow the new rules for collecting taxes on out of state purchases.
If you do not, you are selling illegally because you did not follow the law.

What this is about is government wanting billions of dollars of taxes that they
are not collecting from out of state purchases. They are starting with tobacco
because non tobacco users think they are exempt. But there is a surprise
coming. Once this becomes the law, it will be extended to include all purchases
of anything out of state. that means books, dvd's, jewelry, household
items.....the works.

And that will include mom and pop internet sites selling items from there home.
The danger here is not just tobacco users. Eventually, it will affect all,
raise prices and costs, or put mom and pop out of business.

Let me add this from experience. I was buying something from an antique store.
The seller asked me if I knew what he did for a living. I replied "You sell
antiques." He replied "Wrong". "I am an unpaid tax collector".

Think about it.


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Craig Miller

carl

Hi, Craig,

You know that, were ALL the laws put on hard copy, you could probably
fill ALL the canyons in the Western Hemisphere?

Who was it... Ayn Rand, I think... said that there's no fun in governing
a law-abiding people. It's necessary to make it rather easier to get
them to run afoul of the law...

Other things to think on...

Carl
/ type 'c', not 'k', to email ;p

tstarr1863

This is a very serious problem and not just for pipe smokers. If
pipes and tobaccos are first what is next? Car parts, books????

Wow, it will be the end of internet business as we have known it.

E. Spear

drblues

Not to be conspiratorial but I think that is the underlying intent.
The internet has allowed us a greater selection with better prices.
However if enough people cry long and hard enough usually someone pays
attention, i.e. the State not getting its share, or most of the money
they want which is all of it.
NY was notorious for this, taxes where I lived were insane, my house
here cost almost 4 times what it did in NY yet my taxes are
approximately the same, what next, one might ask? I think, everything.
It is hip to be anti-tobacco for *the children*, for the children my
backside, someone with some brains thought to pick an item, that is
not popular and then you get the clowns that pop into asp from another
newsgroup saying YES! ("I'll drink the purple cool aid...wham you're
dead") To rid the world of the evil smokers, but the day will come
when someone comes after there pet and then it will be "I am so
persecuted" unfortunately The American public cannot intellectually
get a grasp of the bigger picture, they are too selfish and too busy
deciding what is best for me. We should feel special.
cordially
T

magnulus

And the sad part is that the amount of money the states are loosing to the
Net will only be 10 percent in 2006. ONLY TEN PERCENT. Are they so greedy
for money that they cannot let a few folks buying cigarettes and tobacco off
the net slide? The average smoker is going to keep buying their cigarettes
at a convenience store for some time... a study found most smokers buy only
1-2 packs at a time (hardly something you mail order). So what's the deal?

I can tell you on the county and city level in my area they are wasting
alot of money. I have no doubt at the state level in many areas, there's
alot of stuff they could cut easily and make up for that "ten percent" lost
to mail-order.

As for convenience stores, fvck 'em... Until they start carrying tobacco
products I'm interested in... why should I care that they are losing money?

drblues

The camels nose is in the tent Mag.
cordially
T