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1 7th December 07:27
lew bryson
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The ATTTB has invited comment on rules changes on how "malternatives" are
made and taxed. Go here (http://www.ttb.gov/alcohol/rules/index.htm) and
take a look at "TTB Notice No. 4 - Flavored Malt Beverages and Related
Proposals (3/24/03)", then send your comments via e-mail at the link
provided. Vote your conscience, but remember...these idiotic things are
pushing beer off the shelf, and they're being supported by the kind of
marketing ying-yangs who actually made statements like "if we have to make
them the way the government wants, we'll never get that malt taste out."
Malternatives, frankly, suck, and this is a chance to, well, mess with them.
This will increase the cost on the shelf. That may hurt retailers, which I
don't really want to do, but...malternatives are grossly overpriced as it
is, running around $28 a case, so there's PLENTY of fat to cut out of their
wholesale price.

Deadline is OCTOBER 21, so get cracking!

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2 7th December 07:28
binkley
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Is this really Lew "Git the dag-nam Gubbmint off my back" Bryson?

So, to sum up your stand on alcohol taxes, if they run counter
to your narrow self interests you're agin' 'em, but if they jibe
with your narrow self interests you're for 'em?

Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, I suppose.
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3 7th December 07:28
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Hell, that's the Republican credo, ain't it?

notbob ...a registered republican!
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4 7th December 07:28
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binkley@fafner.stanford.edu (Jon Binkley) writes:


" ... and onto someone else's" is the standard (unspoken) end of that.

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5 7th December 07:28
lew bryson
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Actually, the correct quote is "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of
little minds."

I refuse to be bound by idealism; the system is here, and while I am on
record as being against all excise taxes on alcohol, I see no reason to
behave as if they don't exist. Malternatives suck, and their manufacturers
have ducked taxes and dissembled about how they are made. So screw 'em. Your
ever-so-orderly mind can't encompass a little (and it is a damned little)
inconsistency over that?

Here's another quote for you: "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I
contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes."

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6 7th December 07:28
christian m. restifo
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Actually the correct *full* quote is "A foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers,
and divines."
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7 7th December 07:28
christian m. restifo
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On a side note, it's interesting to read the NPRM in the FR. They use
the phrase "beer, ale, porter, or stout" several times.

Nice to know our friendly regulators are using 4 words to say *almost*
*the* *exact* *same* *thing*. Makes you wonder if they actually know
what they're doing....

Chris
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8 7th December 07:28
bill becker
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I guess I'm the first one in this thread to say thanks and I just sent My
thoughts to the powers that be...

Best regards,
Bill
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9 7th December 07:28
paynethomas
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Huh? I don't understand those abbreviations at all... They use


But I DO understand those words and it (or something similar) was a
quite common phrase in the brewing industry for years. (Sure, it's all
"beer" technically, but in the US the word "beer" is short for "lager
beer", so it's not quite so redundant.) On top of that, in many states
"beer" and "ale" have legal differences (go to Texas and find all those
Euro imports with stickers on them proclaiming them "ales"), so I
suppose they're just covering their asses for when the brewery lawyers
show up. I mean, the whole "malternative" controversy is based on the
breweries stretching and bending definitions and techniques to make and
sell a product.
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10 7th December 07:28
dan iwerks
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Why would I give a rat's ass? So people like to drink shitty
malternatives. If they go away, they'll switch to shitty beer. It's not
like droves of people are going to turn from their beloved Smirnoff Ice and
run into the arms of Hop Devil.
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