boron elgar

There is one for sale on eBay. I do not know the seller or the
condition, so I won't post a direct link. Search on "DLX mixer."

Boron

mike avery

It looks clean, but the seller says it has a 450 watt motor. The
current production models have a 700 watt motor. Is that important?
Hard to say. It means it is at least 8 months old, even if it has only
been used twice.

The older model had enough power, so its probably not a big deal. There
are stories about the older units being used for 20 and more years.
MANY more years. My guess is that Electrolux increased the motor power
more to not look underpowered than out of any real need to do so.

As a long term eBayer, I'll offer some unasked for advice to anyone who
is interested and hasn't gotten into eBay yet. eBay is an auction, and
people tend to go crazy at auctions, paying more for a used item than
they could have purchased a new item with a warranty for. I recently
sold a almost new Bosch mixer for a friend and did a very good job of
presenting it. The final bid was $360, plus shipping. There are
several online stores that are happy to sell you one for $329 to $349,
some with shipping included. Do I feel guilty? No, the bidders ran the
price up all by themselves. It must have been worth that to the winning
bidder.

Still, before bidding, I'd look around and find out what a new one is
running for these days. Then I'd decide how much the used one on eBay
is worth to you - with no warranty. And then I'd be really iron willed
about how much I would bid. eBay lets you put in a maximum bid. So,
right now the mixer is going for $9.99. (As an aside, starting the
bidding low is an excellent way to get people to start bidding and start
a bidding frenzy.) Let's say you are willing to pay $299.99. If you
put in that bid, it will show on line as $10.00, just a dollar over the
highest showing bid. Any time new bids come in, if they are less than
your maximum bid, your bid will be raised to a dollar more than the
opposing bid. Even if you're at home asleep. Even if you're at work.
Using that approach makes it easy for you to stay within your pre-set
limit and not get carried away by auction fever.

How real is auction fever? Someone found a 5 inch long Tom's cheese
stick in the bag the vending machine gave him, so he auctioned it off on
eBay. The winning bid, if I remember Jay Leno correctly, was $290.
Which, to me, is madness. (I'll just quietly hope the winning bidder
isn't a regular here.)

Good luck and good bidding,
Mike


Mike

dee.dee

And then I'd be really iron willed


I feel that that particular approach IME will drive the price upward as
everytime someone makes a bid, yours will be sent in to top it. That in
itself will create a little excitement and raise it forward.

Another approach is one that I like to take for myself is to wait to see
what others are doing, so as to not myself be involved in driving the price
up.

This just happened to me a couple of days ago on a small item. I bid once,
he bid; I upped it shortly, and so did he. He had one of those automatic
bids, I would suppose. I decided to back off -- at any rate at the end of
the bidding time, he had backed off (for some reason, whatever) and did not
come in at the last minute. This might not be as easy if there are numerous
bidders. But I did get the bid.
Just my experience.

Regarding the DLX I saw, I thought it showed US$499. If one has to pay
shipping, that is not a bargain. I wouldn't buy something that cost that
much from someone on Ebay. Athought I have bought AIR some items in the 1-2
hundred $ range, I believe, it made me sort of nervous.


Dee Dee

mike avery

It depends on the item. Some items are hotter than others. Sitting out
the auction to the end and having eBay send you reminders about the
auction is one way to get there. Another way, for more serious eBayers
is to use a bid sniper service. As a seller, I hate snipers. As a
buyer, I use them.

There are at least two for sale. One is by auction and is currently at
$9.99. The other is for sale through an eBay store for $499. Which
isn't a bad price.

The one that is being auctioned has a number of strikes against it. It
isn't well presented. It is merchandise that most people are not
familiar with. People in the USA look at KitchenAid mixers and the next
step up is the Bosch. I will be surprised if the bidding approaches the
value of the item. Of course, we don't know if the seller has a reserve
in place.

As to buying high dollar items in eBay, I have no trouble doing that. I
have bought and sold high dollar items, and all but one of the
transactions have been smooth. I bought a car on eBay, and I am still
happily driving it. The feedback mechanism on eBay really does work.
Looking at how many feedbacks the seller has, how many are from sales,
and what their feedback score is gives you a very good idea of what to
expect. Also, while I have heard mixed reports about PayPal, they did
refund my money when a transaction went bad. A seller had a fairly good
reputation but not many sales. I took a gamble and bought a cell phone
from him. At the time he decided to go into the check cashing
business. Enough people complained that he was banned from eBay and I
got my money back. (I don't know if anyone else got a refund, the
nature of ebay is such that you don't know your fellow customers.)

I've sold commercial ovens, bread pans, commercial mixers, dough
dividers, sheeters, dough rounders, commercial bread and roll slicers
and all sort of things. As a seller, I get more than I could if I sold
through a garage sale, through want ads, or to a used equipment dealer.
As a buyer, I get better selection than I would get at garage sales or
through want ads, and much better prices than through a used equipment
dealer. When we were running the bakery, we bought some new gear, some
from individuals (bakeries in the area that had gone out of business),
used equipment dealers, some stuff on eBay, and some new gear.

The best and worst pieces of gear were new. One mixer was broken and
waiting on parts 1/2 the time we owned it.

The stuff from individuals was consistently good, though it often needed
extensive cleaning.

All the stuff we got from eBay was good, and as advertised.

The used equipment dealers were about 50/50. Some gear was good, some
was not. And the prices were higher.

Personally, I've been a happy camper on eBay. Your mileage may vary.

Mike

dee.dee

Mike, I really enjoyed your writing about ebay. Many would not take the
time for such a nice reponse. Obviously you know what you are doing. I'm a
sniveling little buyer most of the time, a nervous Nellie. I just don't
have the soul for it.

I understand you are in the business of bread and it is probably a god-send
in many cases for you. About the most adventurous buying I do is Amazon.
:-))

Thanks again.
Dee

boron elgar

The mixer I saw is only up to $10.99 with 2 bidders now (fri am). It
closes the 17th. There is another that is not an auction, but a "buy
it now" offer at $499. The latter is a retailer and no bargain,
obviously.

I won't seriously advise anyone on eBay bidding, as everyone has an
opinion, but I can say that I have gotten some wonderful bargains
even at higher prices.

Nevertheless, it is a place where one needs to use caution, just as
one would buying from the website of an unknown online retailer.

Boron

janet b.

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what is a bid sniper service?
Janet

the cook

You select the item you want, by number tell the service how much you
are willing to pay and when you want the bid sent. It does not bid
until the time you select and only bids high enough to best the
current bid. Ten seconds before closing, maybe. They track the
bidding, let you know if it passes your high bid. You do not have to
be at your computer at the end of the bidding to try to get a last bid
in. It also keeps anyone from knowing that you will bid or how much.
There is a small fee for all purchases. I don't remember if they
charge if you do not win. Check out http://www.esnipe.com

I have had no problems with them. The only bids I have missed are the
ones that went over my set amount. I have a chance to up the amount
if I desire, but I usually have time to think about it. In fact I
usually set the bid amount at the highest I am willing to pay. If I
get it for less, great.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

dee.dee

Thanks for this info. I was under the incorrect observation that if you set
your highest bid you were willing to pay, say, at $100. and the last bid was
$80, then you would be paying $100. But not so, heh? but that you would be
paying the increment of whatever you chose, say $2.50, the amount of $82.50
to secure the bid.

Ah, I see.
Thanks for enlightening me about that.
Dee

dee.dee

Replying to myself and anyone who wishes to read it ;-))
I just bought a very large used cook book from Amazon from one of their good
sellers; the book had lots of food stuck on it, some pages stuck with food,
the whole book was darned dirty, a whole burnt into the back of the cover.
The seller was good enough to have me send it back and they say they will
refund the money.

I have had some, but little, luck buying used from them; but I've decided
that crossing my fingers on that kind of purchase is not worth the savings.

Dee Dee