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1 21st April 12:26
bobdrob
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I recently got a deal on a few large Ball jars. None of the bails were
attatched, just in a box w/ the lids & old gaskets. I can't for the life of
me figure out how to get them on. Does anyone have a close-up picture(s) to
help me out? All relpies greatly appreeshed! TIA regards, bobdrob
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2 23rd April 11:11
cakewmn
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Ball jars with bails, gaskets, and lids are not safe to can in. They
make great storage jars but the gaskets and bails just don't work
anymore for canning. I am not sure why, but think environmental
conditions are so much different than 50+ years ago when my family
used them to can they just don't do the job. To put them together you
force the circle of the bail over the neck of the jar, then put the
gasket on the inside of the glass lid (there is a lip for it to fit
against), put the lid on the jar and then force the remaining half
circle of the bail up over the lid into the notch on top the lid.

Hope this helps.
Oleta
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3 23rd April 11:11
gsm
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I can't speak for what's available elsewhere, but the jars sold here are
not for canning. The are not heat proof glass, the precesion needed to
make the seals actually seal is not there and the rubber is a cheap compound
that dries out quickly at normal humidity.

In plain English they are designed for the decorative storage of dry foods,
and not for pickling or canning.

Geoff.

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4 23rd April 11:11
melbas jammin
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I just noticed this note tonight. I've posted a bunch of close up pics
on a bale closure on my website. I hope they help you. -- -Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 4-2-06, Church review #11

"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."
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5 23rd April 11:11
old rocker
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These are sold in the UK as Le Parfait jars. AFAIK you cannot take the
bale connection off - it is fixed, but those sold in the US might be
different.

The rubber seal is vital and those from a wide range of preserving jars
can be used - even those jars not manufactured by Le Parfait. However,
the most popular jar here used to be Kilner jars, but the brand Kilner now
longer exists and the company that used to make them (Ravenhead Glass)
went bankrupt. There is a brand of jar (again imported) that is very like
the old Kilner jars called Leifheit jars, but the seals for these don't
fit Kilner jars.

So now you've got the jars make sure you have a selection of rubber seals!
My Kilner jars date back to 1942 and I cannot get the metal tops or the
rubber seals to go under the glass tops anywhere. They cannot be used for
food preserving any more and so I'm getting more and different types. By
the way, if anyone knows a source for rubber Kilner seals in the UK for
the Dual Purpose jars...

Finally, in the US is "canning" preserving in jars? Here in the UK, its
only called canning when you preserve items in metal cans, and the canning
machines are no longer supplied to the domestic (ie non-commercial) market.
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6 23rd April 11:11
melbas jammin
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Yes, it is.
And I confess to having not read the OP as thoroughly as I should have
before responding, Had I done so, I also would have chimed in with the
caution about using such jars (rubber gasket and bail closure) for
preserving. That method is not recommended by the authoritative
organizations that we in the USA rely on for safe processing
recommendations. I hope the OP sees this.


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7 23rd April 11:11
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Yes, it is what we call 'bottling'

O in Scotland
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8 23rd April 11:11
bobdrob
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problem solved- jars will be used for non-canning storage. special thanks to
Mother Superior- the pix were great! BTW, loved the pickle hats! many thanx
again.
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9 24th April 02:42
melbas jammin
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Pickle hats can be yours. . . . . just let me know. I don't have pics
up yet of their most recent sighting -- Patagonia and Easter Island. -- -Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 4-2-06, Church review #11

"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."
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