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1 29th August 17:27
bunny mcelwee
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I would like to make some juice for Apple Jelly. I've tried in t he
past, with both regular apples as well as a bottled apple juice. Both turned
out like syrup, not jelly, both used Sure Jell, followed the directions, to
no avail. What are the best type of apples to use for jelly? Most recipes
say xx number of pounds of apples, but they don't say what kind. Some say
sour apples, but do they mean Granny Smith? My grandmothers apple jelly was
always a pinkish/red color, and that would be untrue of a granny smith. She
also says she's always made her jelly from the skins of red apples, hence
the pinkish/red jelly, but can't remember what kind. Can anyone lead me in
the right direction? I understand Red Delicious is not an acceptable choice
since it is not "sour" enough. Any help would be appreciated.

I've had similar issues with G**** Jelly. My problem is I don't live in
an area that has access to Concords, so I can't use them. The only access I
have is to Red Globes (Do not make jelly, but make a pretty sickening sweet
syrup, much to my dismay) Red seedless and green g****s. I've also tried to
make jelly from bottled or frozen concentrates, to no avail. They always end
up syrupy. I've not been able to find one that I can use that will setup
firm like jelly.

Thanks in advance for any help!

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2 29th August 17:28
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Are there any crabapple trees in your area? They should be covered with
fruit right now; I'm planning to pick some over at the water dept. this
weekend if nobody beats me to 'em. I still have too much crabapple
jelly leftover from last year, so I may use them to flavor and color
some mead (it's called cyser when you add apple juice to the honey.)
Use all crabapples or a mixture of crabapple juice and regular apple juice.

[snipped the part about g****s]

I don't know much about making g**** jelly, but
(1) you might have better luck with making jam
(2) try finding some wild g****s. It's too bad you can't get Concords,
but what about Muscadines or sour "mustang" g****s?

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3 29th August 17:30
bunny mcelwee
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Not that I know of. I've never heard of anyone talking about them and
I've never seen one. I'll ask around and see if anyone has access to them.
In the meantime, I'm still looking for other ways to make Apple Jelly.

As doe the g****s, yes, I do have access to Muscadine and Scuppernog
g****s. I've actually got recipes for Jams for both types, but no Jelly
recipes. My husband only likes Concord, but he knows I can't make that since
they don't grow here. I just recently picked up some Concord juice from his
grandmother in WV, but that won't last long once I make it into Jelly for my
husband. Just ****s that I can't get Concords here. Never even seen them in
the stores.

Thanks very much for the information, I appreciate it!

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4 29th August 17:31
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Check the instruction sheet in the Sure-Jel box and see if there's
instructions for muscadine jelly. IMHO, it tastes better than concord

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5 29th August 17:31
melbas jammin
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Bunny, you're doing something wrong and I can't imagine what! Some help
I am, huh? I've never had a failure with it. Is it possible that your
grandmother made crabapple jelly? I use Dolgo crabs and the jelly is a
beautiful ruby red. The Dolgo has a bright red skin and it's not very

AFA g**** jelly -- we had a big ol' discussion here about g**** jelly a
couple three years ago. I was really curious and through the
g****growers association (whatever it's called), learned that when the
leaflet says Concord g****s, it means Concord g****s. When I make my
g**** jelly, I use bottled g**** juice - Welch's unsweetened, I think.
Still have it in the fridge. It set beautifully. And I've made mint
jelly with bottled apple juice as a base -- it set beautifully. I'd use
a tart, at least, apple for jelly, not a sweet one. --
-Barb, <> Updated 9-26-05
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6 29th August 17:33
ag384@freenetcarletonca william r
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To make jelly you need three ingredients:
- acid
- pectin
- sugar

Acid fruit is "sour" or "tart". You can't make jelly from sweet eating
apples unless you add some acid like lemon juice. You can make jelly from
"sour" cooking apples or crabapples. The skin contains lots of pectin so
you leave the skin on when mashing up the apples to extract the juice. The
pectin is released when the mash is heated so it has to be brought to a
boil and simmered which also softens the apples so they can be mashed. The
harder the apples the more pectin they contain. I gather some green apples
early in the season to extract the juice to add to other fruit which don't
have enough pectin to make jelly by themselves.

Which brings us to g****s. Wild g****s are sour and contain acid but the
one's I gather don't contain enough pectin to jell so I add some apple
juice. You can also buy commercial pectin at the supermarket and add that

You can find out all about the chemistry of jelly on the internet.
You read what I learned about it on my website (see below) under "Food".
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7 29th August 17:35
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I've had good luck with a variety called L-star. I've made applesauce,
applepie filling and will be using them for pectin. I would think they
would make lovely apple juice. IMO granny smith and red delicious are
not near as good varieties as they used to be. I always used granny
smiths for pies but find the L-star much nicer. It is a tart smaller
apple with a yellowish to red blush. The fruit is nice and firm.
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8 29th August 17:36
melbas jammin
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Have you run across Honey Crisps? Fabulous apple! Developed at my U of
MN. About $11 for half a peck around here!! Lor, they're good, though!
-Barb, <> Updated 9-26-05
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9 29th August 17:37
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No I haven't run across Honey Crisps. I pay $8 for firsts, $5 for
seconds for a half bushel and they are cheaper if you pick your own but
ladders and I don't agree I'm just a tad accident prone and don't
need anything else bunged up this year. Are they a tart good cooking
apple? I'm always on the lookout for other varieties since they've
messed with the granny smith. The L-stars are very good for cooking
with. You should taste the Apple Maple Jam I just made. Dang that
stuff is really good! With the cooler weather I'll be making apple
bread using L-stars. I find they keep the shape better and that's what
you want in apple bread - nice chunks of apples
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10 29th August 17:37
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I bought a 10 pound bag of Honey Crisp seconds for $10 last weekend and
I've been eating them. I picked thru the bags and got one that had a
lot of large apples in it, and not very many with brown spots. I have a
mature Honey Crisp tree, but it has started blooming only every other
year. Last year it bloomed so much it looked like a white flowering
crabapple tree, and it took me a while to figure out where than faint
rose smell was coming from. So this year, no apples.

I wouldn't use honeycrisp apples for jelly even if they weren't so
expensive. They are too sweet and juicy. A firm tart apple would be a
better choice.

The Honey Golds were not out yet. I'll buy a half a bushel of Honey
Gold seconds (should be $5) for canning, baking, etc.

I've found that if I slice the apples and dip them in a Campden tablet
solution, they don't turn brown and I can store a big bowl of them in
the fridge and they stay pretty and white until the last of them finally
rot 2 weeks later. I used to send apple slices to school in DD's
lunches. One of the mom's (who was convinced her little darling was
allergic to *everything*, despite evidence to the contrary) asked me how
I kept the apple slices fresh. The look on her face was priceless when
I told her I dip them in bisulfite solution. :-)

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