mike petro

I heard on NPR that as of yesterday PayPal is now open in China. This
could prove very interesting in opening the doors to small purchases
directly from smaller Chinese vendors. Previously only foreigners
living in China, or Chinese with foreign connections, had access to
Paypal. Since most Chinese did not have access to Paypal it was often
cost prohibitive to deal with the Bank Transfers, and other hoops that
you had to jump through, for just a small order. Now, as more Chinese
Vendor's get online with Paypal it could become quite simple. This
should also improve the Chinese tea quality and prices available
domestically since competition will almost certainly increase. It will
probably put an end to $5 cakes being sold for $80, for once I think
the consumer will win.

Mike
http://www.pu-erh.net

mydnight

I see the negative side of it. As more vendors get online, it will be
more and more difficult to sift through all the vendors to find a good
one. It's akin to going to the tea market and taking all afternoon to
find someone that doesn't treat you like you've never drank Chinese tea
before. There's still a good chance that even the 5 dollar cakes
should only cost 1 dollar or less even at the reputable dealers sites
online.

I just rich I was rolling in the dough. I would fly you guys out to
Guangzhou, and we could spend the afternoon in Fangcun; it would be
educational beyond belief.

mydnight

I see the negative side of it. As more vendors get online, it will be
more and more difficult to sift through all the vendors to find a good
one. It's akin to going to the tea market and taking all afternoon to
find someone that doesn't treat you like you've never drank Chinese tea
before. There's still a good chance that even the 5 dollar cakes
should only cost 1 dollar or less even at the reputable dealers sites
online.

I just wish I was rolling in the dough. I would fly you guys out to
Guangzhou, and we could spend the afternoon in Fangcun; it would be
educational beyond belief.

mydnight

god. sorry...I hate google groups.

lewis perin

"Mydnight" <myseri@hotmail.com> writes:

So why don't you learn how to use it? As I've said to you offline,
you need to start quoting relevant parts of the posts you respond to.
Admittedly, Google doesn't seem to make this the default, but other
posters seem to deal with this successfully.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin / perin@acm.org
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

ozzy

I think that depends on the number, cost and frustration level of the
"hoops you have to jump throuigh", both for the small Chinese merchants &
their Western customers (for example, how about a "special" fee to get an
export permit, permitting a small busnessperson to tap those lucrative
overseas markets?)

Maybe consumers will benefit, though -- but I wouldn't be surprised if
they'll have to me more alert to do so.

Ozzy

mydnight

I can follow the relavent threads with relative ease using the "view as
a tree" button, which I would recommend you try. I was saying that I
hate google groups because it crashes my IE and then double posts.

You're the only one that seems to have trouble following threads around
here, so I would pose the same question to you: Why don't YOU learn
how to use it?

michael plant

Mydnight1121225198.101240.297380@g14...l egroups.com7/12/05
23:26myseri@hotmail.com

Mydnight,

With all do respect, and I do respect you, the message above, as well as
your "god." message are a complete mystery to me, as many of your
decontextualized messages are. This is not criticism, but a suggestion: Add
as much of the ****nal post as is necessary to make clear to what you are
referring.

I use a usenet client, not Google groups. It's clean and to the point.
Highly recommended, if possible. It's also right up to the minute, unlike
the web-based portals such as Google, etc. Perhaps in China you don't have
the same wonderful resources that glut our American life, but still and all,
context helps, however you are able to achieve it.

Michael

kludge

Then why are you using it? If you are on Great Wall Broadband, ask if
they have a Usenet server available. I gather you are in Wuhan from your
IP address, which means you may need to talk to the headquarters guys.

If they have no news server (and nntp.gwbn.net.cn doesn't seem to resolve
for me), you can always buy a Supernews account. Getting off of Google
and onto a real news service will be a huge improvement in every possible way.

There is a free server in Changzhou at news.bentium.com, which seems to be
pretty reliable. It has a good feed, but it is set up for read-only
access. It's possible that you can get posting access through their
server for a fee.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

lewis perin

"Mydnight" <myseri@hotmail.com> writes:


What makes you think I read Usenet with Google Groups?

Rash assumption.


Because I'm happy with the newsreader I use: Emacs/Gnus. You're
asking me to use your newsreader; I'm just asking you to learn to use
the one you already use.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin / perin@acm.org
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html