st.helier

Dan, Dan, Dan.

Just think what you are missing in this narrow minded approach.
Hey, we all agree that France, whilst producing some of the worlds greatest
wines, also turns out some rubbish, and lots of it.
But, surely, the good ole USA is not much better.
Although both the US and NZ try to do decent Pinot, they have never truly
arrived at where Burgundy is at!
For Gods sake man, think outside or the square.
Have you never indulged in the floral elegance of Mosel?
What about a Rutherglen Muscat or a big, bold brassy Aussie Shiraz?
Or a 6 putt sweetie from Hungary?
So, you really prefer a Ca Sauvignon from a zingy expression from
Marlborough?
And please don't tell me that anyone truly replicates Champagne.
Oh! And the US offers a truly great Amarone?
Guess what? I have never had a GV from Austria - but I cannot wait!!! (It
is on my list!!)
Support your local industry - of course - but this is a tiny world.
The worst limits are always self imposed!!!!!

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st.helier

vino

But they make terrific Burgundy in California. I bought a box of it
the other day. My next door neighbor, who drinks primarily beer, loved
it after consuming a sixpack of his regular stuff. ;-)

Most rivers that I have been around had sort of a fishy smell to them. ;-)


Is this a wine or a woman? I've never heard that term before.

California makes some good cabernet sauvignons. I didn't know that
Marlborough made any at all. Oh, now I realize that you are referring
to sauvignon blanc. ;-)


Again, California does. Says so on the bottles. ;-)

I agree completely. Good reply to a narrow-minded posting.

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cochrand

There are probably some good ones in croissant-land but I haven't
tried any since the start of the Iraq war.


Every country has its share of sewage-in-a-bottle. This is where I
find "Wine Spectator" helpful.

Regarding NZ wine (haven't tried yet), is the Sauv Blanc really as
good as I hear? I never got mad about your country's win in the
America's Cup (you won it fair and square).lol

You kidding? I love Mosel, espescially from Piesport. I have a
Spatlese in the cooler right now.


Love Aussie Shiraz. Never tried Rutherglen wines - is the Muscat
anything like Italian Moscato?


Whoa! I haven't closed off my mind (or palate) completely. I recently
got a pleasant surprise when I bought a few varieties I hadn't tried
in the past. Like a Mendocino (Calif) Viognier, a Spanish Tempranillo,
and an Aussie Semillon/Chard. I was delighted with all of them. But I
will say this - my favorite red wine is made right here in
southeastern Pennsylvania, US of A. It's called Kog Hill Cabernet
Franc, the best wine that my limited budget allows at $15 US. It's a
rather small (and new) outfit. I don't know if they export!

Dan-O

furious shepherd

Yikes, Dan. KOG Hill Cab Franc? I thought that stuff was awful. I think the
wines from Manatawny are easily the best in the Reading area (though I
haven't been to many of the wineries in the Bucks/Chest/Mont area. Nillsley
is also very nice.

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st.helier

IIRC croissants originated in Belgium!!!


No comment - save to say "You started it!" :-)))))

Are they experts in sewage disposal - are they?


OK - I can be as parochial as the next man ("Little does he know that I am
the next man!" Eccles - Goon Show circa 1962)

I don't know what you have heard, but if you get an opportunity, seek out a
bottle of SB from either Wither Hills Vineyards; Lawson's Dry Hills;
St.Clair Vineyards; Isabel Estate or Cloudy Bay (out of Marlborough) and
Palliser Estate from Martinborough and try for your self.

Yes, and I was in San Diego to see them racing - very proud day!


Nope - it is a fortified wine made from Brown Muscat; it is like liquid
Christmas pudding, complete with nuts & raisins & brandy - one drop and
you'll finish the bottle!!!!

My favourites are from Campbell's; Morris; Stanton & Killeen and also
Chambers.

Probably very difficult to find in the US - but, as they say in Australia -

"When you are being monstered by a 7 foot tall Hells Angel, and you're in
your Volkswagen 6 volt, and you see a break in the traffic - Never let a
chance go by!!!"

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st.helier

tom s

More like sewage _avoidance_.

Cloudy Bay is overrated and overpriced. You can find many good SBs in the
$12-14 US range (Kim Crawford, Lofthouse e.g.) that are every bit as good.


A simpler axiom by Yogi Berra:
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it!"

Tom S

ian hoare

Salut/Hi st.helier,

le/on Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:25:52 +1200, tu disais/you said:-

It's called cutting off his nose to spite his face, Andrew. He's swallowed
Bush's propaganda hook line and sinker, so believes in some bizarre way that
France "betrayed" the USA in its hour of need. Of course, now Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction have been shown to exist mainly in the fevered
imagination of the hawks in the CIA and that there is every evidence that
Saddan Hussein had nothing to do with the murderous attack on the WTT, his
position is shown to be untenable as well as idiotic.

What's even MORE lunatic is that in a subsequent post he shows he's
continuing to drink German wine, while boycotting French thus conveniently
forgetting in his stand of principle that Germany was if anything more
against the USA than France. But hey, he can sleep better in his bed knowing
he's done his patriotic duty for the good ole US of A.


Particularly when they are shown to be xenophobic and illogical.

And for those who find my post inflammatory, remember how many anti French
posts we've seen, to which I've NOT replied, and to which NO USAian has made
the slightest reproach. Keeping politics out of this NG works both ways
folks.
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mark lipton

Neither, milud. Their creation is credited to Viennese bakers who
crafted them to celebrate the end of the siege of Vienna in 1683.
Apparrently, the crescent moon was the symbol of the Ottomans even then,
hence the shape of the croissant. Or so the legend has it... I do know
that one still finds crescent-shaped semmeln on the breakfast tables of
Vienna.

Hysterically ewers,
Mark Lipton

nils gustaf lindgren

Good Sir Professor ...

Considering the croissants, it is even worse ...
The Turkish army be-sieging Vienna was trying to undermine the city walls
earlye in the morning (before the break of day), at a time whenmost of the
defenders were taking their rest ... but the bakers were up, baking the
daily, and heard mysterious noises from the underworld, being nothing else
than the said Turks doing theior dastardly work, which was therefore foiled,
the bake´s bringing the said mysterious noises to the attention of proper
authorities, it being the solemn duty of any good citizen in times of
crisis. And, for which the bakers were allowed to praise themselves by
baking crescent shaped cakes.

HTH - HAND

Nils Gustaf

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ron lel

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What an odd comment. I still drink Californian and Oregon wines, despite the
fact that Bush illegally invaded Iraq.

Ron Lel