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1 27th May 18:03
ajanta
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Conversion not a personal matter

Sandhya Jain

Defying conventional wisdom, I find myself in sympathy with the rage of
Afghanistan's orthodox clergy at the Karzai regime's suc***bing to
Western pressure and literally smuggling a Christian convert out of the
country, when he was supposed to be under investigation for apostasy.
Coming as this does soon after the Dutch cartoons lampooning Prophet
Mohammad, the incident must have enhanced the psychological unease in
the Islamic world about the motivations of the Christian West.

The matter has serious implications for Islam and other non-Christian
civilisations, and deserves dispassionate ****ysis. The accused, Abdul
Rahman, converted to Christianity 16 years ago while employed by an
international Christian agency helping Afghan refugees in Peshawar,
Pakistan. This means that as in tsunami-hit Indonesia, Christian
missionaries disguised as aid workers are active even in 'friendly'
Islamic countries.

Rahman worked for four years in Pakistan, before moving to Germany,
where he lived for nine years. On returning to Afghanistan in 2002, he
tried to secure custody of his two ****age daughters from his own
parents, who refused on account of his changed religion and called the
police, resulting in the recent prosecution. Significantly, just before
the Taliban regime fell in 2001, it had imprisoned eight Western aid
workers for trying to convert Afghans. The concerned NGOs vehemently
denied the accusations, but after the workers were rescued by US
troops, many admitted the proselytisation charge.

Rahman's prosecution under the post-Taliban constitution brought the
wrath of the supposedly secular Christian world upon the government of
President Hamid Karzai, proving my contention that secularism is a
twin-god of Christianity, a mask to promote the Christian agenda while
denying similar freedom to other faiths. So, led by the Vatican and the
United States, howls of protest arose from France, Italy, Germany,
Britain, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Austria, even NATO (a Western
military bloc) and the West-dominated United Nations. Surely the
separation of religion and State calls for restraint in promoting the
cause of conversion, especially as this entails a nasty determination
to eliminate other faiths and impose dominion on other peoples.

But such niceties from never inhibited the West from actively funding
conversions with a clear political agenda. Conversion, as East Timor
proves, superimposes the economic and political goals of the
proselytising nation upon the interests and aspirations of the
converted. East Timor's secession from Indonesia gave Australia a free
run of the formers' oil reserves; the Afghan narcotics trade currently
stands at $2.8 billion.

To return to Rahman, the Karzai regime crumbled quickly. At first the
prosecution was halted on the ground that the accused was mentally
unstable; he was released for medical scrutiny, and hastily smuggled to
Italy, where he received political asylum. The Afghan ulema's impotent
rage is symptomatic of modern Islam's sterility in facing the West's
imperialistic designs on its terrain. Islam would do well to put its
house in order and denounce the jihadi mercenaries serving the
geo-strategic goals of the West.

The Indian view on conversions is akin to that of Islam (minus the
death penalty for apostasy). As per the lived experience of human
societies all over the world, dharma or religion has never been a
matter of individual choice. Dharma is primarily and intrinsically
integral to family, clan, social and cultural inheritance. All human
beings are born into a spiritual tradition and initiated into its
customs, philosophy, tenets and taboos from an early age, just as they
are given appropriate education or skills by their natal families.

Normally, a person does not choose his dharma in the manner in which he
chooses a political party or association on reaching adulthood. Like
family name or clan (jati, gotra) identity, the spiritual and cultural
heritage is a natal legacy. It can be renounced, like material wealth;
but the norm is to pass it on to future generations as a birthright.
Every individual, family and social group has the right and duty to
revere and protect this legacy and demand it be respected by other
human beings and groups. This is a foundational right of society, and
the Supreme Court's decision upholding conversion by one spouse to
another faith as a legitimate ground for divorce, affirms it. This is
logical, because far from being a personal matter, dharma permeates all
aspects of life intimately.

Western propaganda that religion is a matter of individual choice is
actually a legal subterfuge to checkmate opposition as Christianity
undermines rival faiths and "harvests souls" in order to takeover
targetted communities and nations. That is why the issue of freedom of
religion is couched mainly in pro-missionary terms, as a one-sided
right to force the Bible down the throats of pre-selected human
targets. To my mind, proselytisation is a grotesque form of
psychological and spiritual (often even physical) violence and an abuse
of human rights because it denies the targetted community or individual
the agency to uphold as meritorious and intrinsically valuable an
extant civilisational ethos, with its accompanying gods, morals,
ethics, culture and traditions that have been practiced for centuries.

In a world order that claims to be post-colonial, there can be no
justification for such invasive appropriation of the ethical agency of
other peoples. Evangelism violates the basic premise of equality of all
religions, and the United Nations would do well to consider the
critical question whether all religions have a right to exist,
particularly in the core homelands in which they were born, and in
lands where they are currently the principal creed.

Linked to this is the question whether a particular monotheistic faith,
one that alone is represented at the United Nations as a State power,
enjoys special immunity to insult and annihilate other faiths in their
own space. Far from siding with the Christian West, should not the
United Nations take action to protect other faiths and cultures from
the terrible depredations of this imperialistic political culture?

Evangelical traditions cannot be allowed the license to deny respect
and honour to the god(s) and spiritual eminences of a community being
targetted for conversion. Indeed, this cussed approach to
proselytisation must be viewed as a form of totalitarianism, of mental
and psychological subversion of the individual and community. The
utterly vulgar call for "harvesting souls" should be designated as a
form of immoral human trafficking because the moral autonomy of the
community and individual is denied; both are degraded, and hence a
crime committed against humanity. Muslim scholars and activists opposed
to organised religious conversion, as distinct from an individual
personally seeking out another faith, may find the Global Congress on
"World Religions after September 11" (Montreal, September 11-15, 2006)
an appropriate forum to debate these issues.

A post-colonial world order cannot justify such invasive appropriation
of the ethical agency of others, unless we are now witnessing a new
imperial order. Non-Christian nations would do well to join hands and
petition the United Nations General Assembly for sanctions against
organised evangelism in vulnerable communities.

Several member-States have experienced the misuse of charity and aid
for promoting conversions, and now even developed societies like Japan
are realising the damage done to the native ethos and national culture
by mindless imitation of Western mores and adoption of Christian ritual
and symbols in their wedding ceremonies. Maybe it is time to demand
reparations for the social, psychological and cultural harm done by
evangelical imperialists.

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2 27th May 18:03
harmony
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at worst, it seems like a horizontal movement on a monotheist plane; it's
all in the abraham's family.
funnny thing is waiting to happen, however, in italy where he now lives. he
will get harrassed by eyetalians, mistaking him for a mommedan, helping him
see thr' the politics masquerading as religion (ie kirastanism), and making
him wonder if he should pretend to be something he is not. the west believes
in conversion; it converted christ into a white guy - for god's sakes, they
say!!!
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3 27th May 18:03
harmony
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at worst, it seems like a horizontal movement on a monotheist plane; it's
all in the abraham's family.
funnny thing is waiting to happen, however, in italy where he now lives. he
will get harrassed by eyetalians, mistaking him for a mommedan, helping him
see thr' the politics masquerading as religion (ie kirastanism), and making
him wonder if he should pretend to be something he is not. the west believes
in conversion; it converted christ into a white guy - for god's sakes, they
say!!!
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4 27th May 18:03
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Islamo-fascism is illegally occupying Afghanistan. mo-ham-MAD (shit be
upon the disagraced corpse of that arab son of a whore who called
himself "prphet" was a bastard and child molester. Afghanistan was
ZOROASTRIAN, Buddhist and Hindu and people have the right to opt out of
that filthy arab cult called islam.

I piss on the koran and islam
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5 27th May 18:03
sirknight67_shits_on_mo-ham-mad
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Islamo-fascism is illegally occupying Afghanistan. mo-ham-MAD (shit be
upon the disagraced corpse of that arab son of a whore who called
himself "prphet" was a bastard and child molester. Afghanistan was
ZOROASTRIAN, Buddhist and Hindu and people have the right to opt out of
that filthy arab cult called islam.

I piss on the koran and islam
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6 28th May 13:42
neil boss
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Well has this not always been the case? Have we as Hindus not turned a blind
eye to these things and fought between us in the name of secularism? Is it
not our fault as a nation we allow Hindus, Sikhs and Budhists to die or be
forcefully converted to Islam in countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and
Afganistan, etc?

Well good luck to the Christian missionaries and the western nations who
make use of their power to save their own. We need to stop complaining and
start learning from others.
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7 28th May 13:44
neil boss
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Well has this not always been the case? Have we as Hindus not turned a blind
eye to these things and fought between us in the name of secularism? Is it
not our fault as a nation we allow Hindus, Sikhs and Budhists to die or be
forcefully converted to Islam in countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and
Afganistan, etc?

Well good luck to the Christian missionaries and the western nations who
make use of their power to save their own. We need to stop complaining and
start learning from others.
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