sloan

I just hit upon a simple and obvious solution.

Just find a good dentist and get him to mail us the teeth he pulls
out.

He can even send us children's teeth as they fall out. Baby teeth can
also be ****yzed for DNA.

I am concerned that somebody might send in two teeth for the same
person. This might skew the results. There might be a way to check to
make sure each tooth is from a different person.

This solves a lot of problems. Many people are uncomfortable doing
cheek swabs. The DNA in teeth are naturally preserved and protected
for thousands of years. Also, we do not have to worry about getting
shot by the Taliban while collecting DNA samples.

This idea works because what we need are DNA samples from any
Nuristanis. It does not matter whether they are old or young, or who
they are.

Also, the Nuristanis, like the Kalash, do not bury their dead. They
put their dead in boxes on top of the ground. Thus, anybody can walk
around and pick up 200 year old teeth or even 500 year old teeth lying
on the ground. In this way, we can be sure that they are real
Nuristanis and are not the products of recent mixtures or
immigrations.

Now, the question are: Is there a dentist in Nuristan? Is there postal
service in Nuristan? Is there any problem sending teeth through the
international mails. (It is a body part, after all.)

We still need to find a scientist to extract the DNA from the teeth
once it arrives here.

Sam Sloan

rapplejam

If you take the DNA from any muslim or any monkey, I'm sure you'll get the
same results.
So , find your self a monkey.......don't let him bite you....those muslims
have a vicious grasp once they get hold of you.
And there's always AIDS.

samsloan

You do not have any problems with grave digging with these people,
because they do not have graves.

They leave their dead bodies out in the open on top of the ground.

That is one of the reasons why they are called Kafirs.

Sam Sloan

sloan

Thank you for your very useful and informative letter.

Your first question concens "chain of custody". I recognize that this
is a problem. However, the alternative involves going up to Nuristan
and collecting the cheek swabs. This would be a very dangerous
undertaking that can get you killed. I have been there twice, and I am
lucky to be alive. I am not going up there again, unless, of course,
they offer me a beautiful girl.

The alternative is going to Jalalabad and although that is less likely
to get you killed it is still dangerous.

Back in the 1980s I could have collected the data myself because there
were 30,000 refugees from Nuristan living in Chitral and I was quite
friendly with them. They often came to see me as they considered me to
be a man of importance, but DNA testing was not available back then.

So, basically the alternatives are my suggestion, which is to collect
the teeth of Nuristanis, or to have no data at all.

Your next question is whether the subjects would be of "deep
ancestry".

I feel that this is not a problem. The evidence indicates that there
has been very little interaction or intermarriage between Nuristanis
and outsiders over the last several thousand years. There are several
reasons for this. They had a reputation for simply killing any
outsider who came there. I know of no historical instance of any man
who simply moved to Nuristan and took up residence there.

For example, in 1507, the Emporer Babur, on his way to the conquest of
India, passed by Kafirstan, which is now called Nuristan. Babur wrote
in his memoirs, "Above Assadabad, all is Kafirstan. Don't go there."

He did have a few run-ins with them. He killed a few of them, and they
killed a few of his army. He was trying to capture their rice fields
to feed his army, but soon gave up.

Babur was able to conquer the whole of India, but he could not
penetrate Nuristan.

King Adbul Rehman did conquer Nuristan in 1892. When asked why he had
done this, he wrote that he had done it because:

"The Nuristanis were such savages that whenever they came to Kabul
they dressed in animal skins, and they sold their wives as slaves."

About the neighboring Chitralis, the Encyclopedia Britannica to this
day states:

"The Chitrali girls are the most beautiful women and they always fetch
the highest prices in the slave markets of Kabul".

I was married to a Chitrali girl, by the way.

I believe that there has been little or no immigration into Nuristan.
Muslim law prohibits marriage of a Muslim girl to a Kafir. If the
Nuristanis got any girls from outside, it was by raids and capturing
them. They were known to do this, but I doubt it happened often.

Your next question involves "Informed consent". I realize that this is
a question if you are identifying the people by name. However, if you
just have a bunch of teeth of Nuristanis, I do not see how that they
can require that the teeth give informed consent.

As to the cost, I will bet that it is a lot less than the cost of an
expedition to Nuristan.

I appreciate the large number of clues you have provided as to how I
can get this done.

Sam Sloan

chess freak

| friendly with them. They often came to see me as they considered me to
| be a man of importance, but DNA testing was not available back then.
| Sam Sloan

I think you meant impotence, not importance.

qa, maj, the cyberquaid

To find a good dentist go to http://www.deltadental.com

sloan

A real, original, 100% pure Kalash has weighed into this discussion by
email from Pakistan with the following great offer:


It is intrsting to do the dnac of the nuristanis to find there origen


Lawari top. If some doctor want to do dna we help him over the pass 2
days terck by horse or by foot to one of the veliege, and back by the
same ruot, if the men gets kill he will go to haven and their he will
get 60 grirls and maney other things acarding to the Islam but other
wise he will not get any grirl.

Abdul Khaleq

nusrat

This seems like a dental service for poor blacks, but I forgot, at
your salary even Delta would be pricey.

qa, maj, the cyberquaid

Okay, then call 1-800-Dentist

samsloan

Should hold out for more virgins or white g****s.


Eric Schiller
http://www.ericschiller.com
http://stores.ebay.com/Chessworks-Unlimited

Perhaps you noticed that he short-changed us.

We are supposed to get 72 virgins, not 60 girls.

I have decided not to complain, however.

Haji Ismail