lad

Please don't confuses Catholic Church & Anglican Church.

They are totally different.

Salutation LAD

qolon

Do you think Anglican Archbishop Peter Jensen is a card carrying member of
the Mary Whiteside club?

- dolf
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html

Please don't confuses Catholic Church & Anglican Church.

They are totally different.
Salutation LAD
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jg

Maybe the film Predator has a relevance nobody has suggested yet - shit
happens.

qolon

Given that one of our nation's sons, Mel Gibson is about to release his
testimony in film on the life of Jesus of Nazareth
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_795953.html , I think there is an
important comment which needs to be made concerning his interview in a
December 1991, where he is said to denouce ***s.

It is essential that recognition is also given to his other views raised at
the time where he is one of few individuals to have publically commented on
the lack of historical continuity and biblical integrity which comprise
Roman Catholic belief as it relates to that community of faith's traditional
understanding of the astrological/numerological term: MALAKOS {

Which is derived from the Greek/Egyptian sophistic sciences {sarkikos sophia
= Malakos where Mala means very; most in the greatest degree or
particularly:-chiefly, most of all, especially} by a numerological (cosmism
as ra=1) metathesis metaschematizo-{transform, of stars and planets,
changing of constellations; cf: Satan & his ministers are transformed into
angels-aggelos of light-phos
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/moment.html#ZOON

} and Hymeneal Occultism as ARSENOKOITES {

ie. Sunday sacred sabbatarians and hymeneal occultists who marry and are
given in marriage contrary to Jesus of Nazareth's sayings [Luke 17:22-30;
Matthew 22:29-32; Mark 12:24-27; Luke 20:34 -38] and who's New Testament
theology as exegesis is obtained from the Chaldeans [Daniel 1:3-4] rather
than the Torah http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/particular.html#TITLE

}:--

"Do I sound like a homo***ual?" he asked. "Do I talk like them? Do I move
like them?

"What happens is when you're an actor, they stick that label on you,"
Gibson said. "I go from playing rugby one week to taking dance classes in
black leotards the next. Many of the girls that I met in school took it for
granted that I was ***."

Gibson's holds extreme conservative views on other issues.

He has quit the Catholic Church because he believes the reforms of the
Second Vatican Council in the 1960s went too far.

"For 1,950 years [the church] does one thing and then in the 60s, all of a
sudden they turn everything inside out and begin to do strange things that
go against the rules," he explained to El Pais.

"Everything that had been heresy is no longer heresy, according to the
[new] rules. We [Catholics] are being cheated. ... The church has stopped
being critical. It has relaxed. I don't believe them, and I have no
intention of following their trends.

"It's the church that has abandoned me, not me who has abandoned it," he
said.

Like the Catholic Church, Gibson opposes birth control, saying, "God is the
only one who knows how many children we should have, and we should be ready
to accept them." [Copyright ©1992 Rex Wockner and affiliated publications
http://internetdump.com/users/glbtlasvegaslive/mgletter.html ]

Aegidius of Viterbo (1465-1532 CE) in writing of John Reuchlin's (1455-1522
CE) Kabbalistic work on the Hebrew letters which gave rise, due to
computation error to the Y2K fiction and an insubstantial claim to Jesus
Christ, notes that he "'had blessed him and all mortals by his works.'


Pythagorean book, as he reads all good books, greedily; then it was read by
Cardinal de'Medici (The Paedophile Pope 1475-1521 CE, as Cardinal at 13 yo,
Pope Leo X in 1513), and I am expecting next to have my turn.'

Christian speculation about the Kabbalah continued to develop under the
endowment of the Medicis in Florence where, at the Platonic Academy, it was
pursued in close connection with the new horizons opened up by the
Renaissance in general. These Florentine circles believed they had
discovered in the Kabbalah an original divine revelation to mankind that had
been lost and would now be restored. With the aid of which it was possible
not only to understand the teachings of Pythagoras, Plato, and the Orphics,
all of whom they greatly admired, but also the secrets and non-Christian
basis of the Catholic faith.

When speaking of their dependency on the Pythagorean/Chaldean {demons,
robbers} interpretation rather than the Torah as conveyed by Hebrew Torah
Scholar, Greek Philosopher and Christian Apostle Paul's use of those terms,
it is important to recognise his other comments on mysticism numerously
given [1Thessalonians 4:3-9] and that Pythagoras (circa 580/570-c.500 BCE)
being contemporaneous to the Hebrews Babylonian captivity, was an imitator
of the Orphean Constitutions, worshipping the gods after the manner of
Orpheus, placed in brazen images, not representing the forms of men, but of
the gods themselves, who comprehending and foreseeing all things, resemble
in nature and form the whole. He declared their purifications and rites,
which are called 'Teletai' {

Where katharmoi (purification rites) of the Lower Mysteries and teletai
(perfection of labours) pertaining to the Greater Mysteries of Bacchus,
whereby the thiaseuesthai (Initiate) is brought into the religious
fraternity or organisation (thiasos)

But as the Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul says, 'first-proton
proved-dokimazo' {cf: 'ekponein edokimaze' he approved of their working}.
The stem word 'dokh' [as in 'Lord-Kurios is the avenger-ekdikos'] denotes
that faith is active participation ie, 'tested in battle' as the most
fundamental category in the human quest for relation to transcendence and
therefore pushes aside an all too easy and passive identification of faith
with religion or belief:

"For this is the will-thelema of God-theos, even your
sanctification-hagiasmos, that ye should abstain from fornication-****eia
{hymeneal mysticism}

That every-hekastos one of you {individually; any, both, each (one), every
(man, one, woman)} should know-eido how to possess-ktaomai his vessel-skeuos
{The Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul was designated by Jesus Christ as the
'chosen-ekloge vessel-skeuos' within the early church [Acts 23:11-15]} in
sanctification-hagiasmos and honour-timê; Not in the lust-pathos of
concupiscence-epithumia {longing, desire; see: EPHESUS (desire); EVI as
unjust, desirous, my desire}, even-kai as the Gentiles-ethnos which-ho
know-eido not God-theos:

That no-me man go-huperbaino beyond-huperbaino {transcend} and
defraud-pleonekteo his brother-adelphos in any matter-pragma: because-dioti
that the Lord-Kurios is the avenger-ekdikos of all-pas such-touton, as we
also-kai have forewarned-proepo you and testified-diamarturomai. For
God-theos hath not called-kaleo us unto uncleanness-akatharsia (cf:
katharmoi (purification rites) of the Lower Mysteries and teletai
(perfection of labours) pertaining to the Greater Mysteries of Bacchus,
whereby the thiaseuesthai (Initiate) is brought into the religious
fraternity or organisation (thiasos); Arsenokoite/Arsenogenes [1Corinthians
6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10] = moral corruption concerning Everlasting Covenant
Defilement), but unto holiness-hagiasmos. He therefore-toigaroun that
despiseth-atheteo {to set aside, that is, (by implication) to disesteem,
neutralize or violate:-cast off, despise, disannul, frustrate, bring to
nought, reject}, despiseth-atheteo not man-anthropos, but God-theos, who
hath also-kai given-didomi unto us his holy-hagios Spirit-pneuma.

But as touching-peri brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia ye need-chreia
{employment, that is, an affair; also (by implication) occasion, demand,
requirement or destitution:-business, lack, necessary (-ity), need (-ful),
use, want; cf: Apostolic succession [Acts 6:1-7]} not that I write-grapho
unto you: for ye yourselves-autos are taught-theodidaktos of
God-theodidaktos to love-agapao one-allelon another-allelon."
[1Thessalonians 4:3-9 ]

}, having the most exact knowledge of them. Moreover they affirm, he made a
composition of the divine Philosophy and service, part whereof he had
learned from the Orpheans, part from the Egyptian Priests; some from the
Chaldeans and Magi; some from the Eleusinian Rites, and those of Imber, and
Samo-Thracia, and Delos, and Celtae, and Iberians. Amongst the Latines also
is read the Sacred Discourse of Pythagoras, not to all, but to such as are
admitted to the doctrine of excellent things, and are not addicted to ought
that is dishonest. The introduction of the Kabbalah into the Latin tongue
and founder of this Christian school of Kabbalah, according to Reuchlin'a
comments in 'De arte cabalistica', was the renowned Florentine prodigy
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-94 CE), who vainly believed on the basis
of axiology, that he could prove the dogmas of the Trinity and the
Incarnation on the basis of Kabbalistic axioms.

Although an axiom is generally recognised as truth of an established and
universally accepted rule. In logic, mathematics and the sciences, it is
essentially a proposition which is assumed without proof for the sake of
studying the consequences that follow from it. When Pico della Mirandola
declared that "'no science yields greater proof of angels, purgatory,
hellfire, and the divinty of Christ than magic and the Kabbalah,' Pope
Sixtus IV (1414-84 CE) 'was delighted and had the Kabbalah translated into
Latin for the use of students of divinity." [cf: Gustav Davidson's
Dictionary of Angels, p 24]

- Qolon
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/

infidel

At first I thought you were Don Burke.
I was going to ask about Azalias.
"Burke's Backyard" on TV etc
Dolf Boek or Don Burke?
No it's only Double Dutch again!
FA
I.

qolon

Do you think Anglican Archbishop Peter Jensen is a card carrying member of
the Mary Whiteside club?

- dolf
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html

Please don't confuses Catholic Church & Anglican Church.

They are totally different.
Salutation LAD
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lad

Please don't confuses Catholic Church & Anglican Church.

They are totally different.

Salutation LAD

qolon

You should ask Henry VIII why he organized his own church and cruelly
persecuted the Catholics, and furthermore looted their property.

Salutations LAD

QOLON RESPONDS:
The time period you are talking about with Henry VIII is 1491-1547CE. I've
included below some narrative on the theological issues of the day... The
difference between them is the Grace shown by God to and by Queen Elizabeth
and the lack of Grace which historically is the Roman Catholic Church.

If Sunday Sacred hymeneal occultists as a pretensious claim to Christianity,
take their theology from Pythagoras who as a 'Teletai' {ie. esoteric mystic}
borrowed from the "Orpheans, part from the Egyptian Priests; some from the
Chaldeans and Magi; some from the Eleusinian Rites, and those of Imber, and
Samo-Thracia, and Delos, and Celtae, and Iberians. Amongst the Latines also
is read the Sacred Discourse of Pythagoras, not to all, but to such as are
admitted to the doctrine of excellent things, and are not addicted to ought
that is dishonest."

Dr. Erich Bischoff in his 1910 German publication of 'The Kabbalah - An
Introduction to Jewish Mysticism & Its secret Doctrine' [ISBN 0-87728-564-0]
describes John Reuchlin as a "famous humanist and advocate of reformation,
an uncle of Melanchton, who was born the 28 December, 1455 in Pforzheim.
After he had studied Greek and Latin in Paris in 1473 he taught ancient
language at The University of Basel from 1474-1478 and continued in Orleans
after 1478. He also studied law there. In 1481 he taught jurisprudence and
literature in Tubingen where he had a law practice. He became a favorite of
Duke Eberhard, with whom he visited Italy where his knowledgeof the Greek
language was highly prized. After carrying out several important missions
for the Duke he returned to Italy in 1490 and learned Hebrew from Leone de
Modena, a study which he continued with the Jewish personal physician to
Emperor Maximilian, Jechiel Loans. In 1509 Maximilian ordered all Hebrew
writings burned and Reuchlin, when asked for his opinion, protested heavily,
which resulted in the famous struggle with the Dominicans from Cologne and
their sham, the baptized Jew Pfefferkorn. Reuchlin incurred a trial from the
Inquisition which he, however, won in spite of the verdicts of the
universities of Paris, Erfurts and Mainz. The famous verdict resulted from
the dispute of the 'Obscure letters' (Epistole obscurorum vigorum) published
by his followers, wherein his opponents [it is claimed] are rightly mocked."
[Bischoff 1998:74]

John Reuchlin initially published a Kabbalistic book in Latin titled De
Verbo Mirifico ('On the Miracle-working Name') at Basle in the year 1495 CE
and Tubingen in 1514 CE. The work, the first of its kind by a non-Jew,
regarded as a miracle of heavenly wisdom, sought to place the Christian
Kabbalah system in the center of old heathen philosophies and considered
that many of the doctrines of Pythagoras and Plato and the Persians before
them, as having been taken from and not introduced into the wisdom of the
Kabbalah. This view was 'elaborated by Meir ibn Gabbai and written in 1531
CE. The idea that the Kabbalah represented the lost tradition of the
earliest state of mankind was familiar also to the 'Christian Kabbalists' of
the late 15th & 16th centuries, such as Pico della Mirandola and Johannes
Reuchlin." [© 1995 Gershom Scholem (1897-1985), Major Trends in Jewish
Mysticism, p 21]

Christian Kabbalah occupied in the 16th century, an honored place in Italy
and France and later in Germany and England with the likes of Dr. John Dee
(1527-1608 CE) an Elizabethan Mystic and Astrologer with one of the largest
personal libraries of his time, who had dedicaded his geometric Kabbalistic
metathesis 'The Heiroglyphic Monad' to the Emperor of the Roman Empire,
Maximilian II in 1564 CE and taught it in detail to the Protestant Queen
Elizabeth I. Although often accused of dabbling in occult spiritualism as
the means to satisfy his enquiry into the Angelic orders of the metaphysical
Kabbalah, the task of 'spirit medium' or 'skryer' although briefly in April
1587 undertaken by Dee's son Arthur and finally by Bartholemew Hickman in
July 1607, was chiefly and fraudulently performed by two disreputable
Catholic Priests Barnabas Saul and Edward Talbot {meaning Reward} (alias
Edward Kelly), who by such means were able to provide direction to an
unsuspecting and gullible Dee. The richness and sophisitication of Edward
Kelly's visions and the combination of clear divine light and complex
Kabbalistic formulae, was not only captivating, but convincing. [© 2001
Benjamin Woolley, "The Queen's Conjurer -- The Science and Magic of Dr Dee",
ISBN 0-00-257139-0, p 187.]

Such use of clairvoyance is second only in nature to the later
representations made by Anglican cleric and Freemason Charles W. Leadbeater
(1847-1934 CE), who presents extensive and meticulous research in observing
superphysical phenomena and was one of the most distinguished clairvoyants
of his day. [cf: Leadbeater: Freemasonary & its Ancient Mystic Rites; ISBN
0-517-20267-0]

Certainly Luther, Erasmus, and Melancthan had instruction from Reuchlin. It
was by him that Schwartzerd had been taught to call himself Melancthon; and
many will remember after his death, how Erasmus in a pleasant dialog, raised
his old friend to the rank of saint and prayed to him, 'Oh, holy soul, be
favourable to the languages; be favourable to those that love honorers of
the languages; be propitious to the sacred tongues.' But Reuchlin never
passed himself off as a reformer beyond the detestation of the vices of the
priesthood. [Henry Cornelius Agrippa, The Philosophy of Natural Magic -
Symbol of the Universal Spirit of Nature, 1533 CE, p 227]

Reuchlin's book, which had been read by the Pope himself with eager
pleasure, was a wonder of the day, and was in the most perfect unison with
the whole tone of Cornelius Agrippa's mind; he really understood it deeply,
it was most dear to him as a theosophist, and he was not to be blamed if he
felt, also that of all the books in the world there was none of which the
exposition would so fully serve his purpose of displaying the extent and
depth of his own store of knowledge." [Ibid, Agrippa, p 234]

Being upon this occasion chief of the Austin Friars, Aegidius of Viterbo
(1465-1532 CE) once wrote of Reuchlin, that he "'had blessed him and all
mortals by his works.' Philip Beroaldus, the younger, wrote to him, The
'Pope Julius II (as Giuliano Della Rovere 1443-1513 CE, as Pope in 1503) has
read your Pythagorean book, as he reads all good books, greedily; then it
was read by [13 yo] Cardinal de'Medici (1475-1521 CE, as Pope Leo X in
1513), and I am expecting next to have my turn.' Christian speculation about
the Kabbalah continued to develop under the endowment of the Medicis in
Florence where, at the Platonic Academy, it was pursued in close connection
with the new horizons opened up by the Renaissance in general. These
Florentine circles believed they had discovered in the Kabbalah an original
divine revelation to mankind that had been lost and would now be restored.
With the aid of which it was possible not only to understand the teachings
of Pythagoras, Plato, and the Orphics, all of whom they greatly admired, but
also the secrets of the Catholic faith. The introduction of the Kabbalah
into the Latin tongue and founder of this Christian school of Kabbalah,
according to Reuchlin'a comments in 'De arte cabalistica', was the renowned
Florentine prodigy Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-94 CE), who vainly
believed on the basis of axiology, that he could prove the dogmas of the
Trinity and the Incarnation on the basis of Kabbalistic axioms.
[Encyclopedia Judaica, © 1971 Keter Publishing House, Ltd, Jerusalem,
Israel]

Although an axiom is generally recognised as truth of an established and
universally accepted rule. In logic, mathematics and the sciences, it is
essentially a proposition which is assumed without proof for the sake of
studying the consequences that follow from it. When Pico della Mirandola
declared that "'no science yields greater proof of angels, purgatory,
hellfire, and the divinty of Christ than magic and the Kabbalah,' Pope
Sixtus IV (1414-84 CE) 'was delighted and had the Kabbalah translated into
Latin for the use of students of divinity." [cf: Gustav Davidson's
Dictionary of Angels, p 24]

It is also to Aegidius (d. 1532 CE), a frequent recipient of Hebrew and
Latin translations of former scholarly works, that the scribal colophon in
the 1499-1504 CE edition of the Aramaic Targum Neofiti 1: Deuteronomy is
presumed dedicated and perhaps by whom references to idols within the
[Deuteronomy 4:1-26] text were eliminated by censorship. The term 'Neofiti'
was an appellation from Southern Italy applied to Jewish converts to
Christianity--whose descendents were suspected of maintaining a secret
alliance with Judaism. [Ref: Encyclopodia Judaica] Aegidius was by 1497, a
Master of Theology and later became vicar general of the Augustinians in
1506; Prior General in 1507, and Cardinal in 1517. He was one of several
Christian Kabbalists who made considerable effort to master the common
ground between the Kabbalah and Christianity and this is reflected in his
work Scechina and On the Hebrew Letters.

Reuchlin promulgated widely his 1517 De Arte Cabalistica ('On the Science of
the Kabbalah') and articulated it by the notion popularly held amongst the
Church Fathers, that when "God created the heaven and earth", it was
allegorically interpreted to mean spirit and matter. Consistent with the
views of bi-polar animastic belief held amongst primative religions, the
spirit was thought comprised of transcendent heirarchies of angelic and
other intelligent agencies, as ministers by whom the ways of man were
considered influenced. Accordingly Voltaire in his 'Of Angels, Genii and
Devils', defines Animastic as meaning 'The Animated' and thereby implies an
order of angels as, 'blessed souls which, by the Hebrew, is called ISSIM,
that is nobles, lords and princes.' In addition to Animastic being claimed
as the ruling or guardian angel of Moses, it is regarded as embodying the
Kabbalistic order referred to by the appellation, 'the soul of the Messiah,
Metatron, soul of the world.' [Davidson, Dictionary of Angels, 1967]

That such as they, who bear only a symbollic and casual reference to the
truth of Torah, cannot call themselves Christians. Perhaps this is what the
7th-day (Saturday) Sabbath keeping and Everlasting Covenant participant,
Hebrew Torah Scholar, Greek Philosopher and Christian Apostle Paul meant
when he says, "...Chiefly because to [the Jews] were committed the Oracles
{Logos} of God. For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make
the faithfulness of God without effect? Certainly not! Indeed, let God be
true but every man a liar.

As it is written:'That you may be found just when you speak, and blameless
when you judge. Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my
mother conceived me. Behold, you desire truth in the inward parts, and in
the hidden part you will make me know wisdom. Purge me with hyssop, and I
shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. Make me to hear
joy and gladness, that the bones which you have broken may rejoice. Hide
your face from my sins, and blot out all my iniquities. Create in me a clean
heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me away
from your presence, and do not take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me
the joy of your salvation, and uphold me with your generous Spirit. Then I
will teach transgressors your ways, and sinners shall be converted to you.'
[Psalms 51:4-13]

' But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what
shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath? (I speak as a man.)
Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?

For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to his glory, why am I
also still judged as a sinner? And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good
may come'?--as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say.
Their condemnation is just. What then? Are we better than they? Not at all.
For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under
sin.'" [Romans 3:2-10]
- qolon http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html
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QOLON NOTES:
But perchance if there is meagre substance to your claim to being a
Christian, let us see it by demostrating what sort of Christian you are.

Provide us with an exegesis of the following Biblical texts, which appear
indicative and central to the 7th-day (Saturday) Sabbath keeping and
Everlasting Covenant participant, Hebrew Torah Scholar, Greek Philosopher
and Christian Apostle Paul's theology: "If Abraham {father of a great
multitude} in circa 40J4W in 2012 BCE was justified by works, he has
something of which to boast, but not of God. For what does the Scritpure
say?

'And Abram {high father} in circa 40J4W in 2012 BCE believed in the name
of the Memra of the Lord {Lord of SABAOTH, Lord of Hosts, Shekinah, Holy
Spirit, Word, Memra, Forces & Authority over Chaos} and it was reckoned to
him as righteousness. And he said to him: 'I am the Lord who brought you
out of the furnace of fire of the Chaldaeans {as demons, or as robbers}.
{ie. Ur {fire, light, a valley} of Chaldeans}.'" [© 1992 The Order of Saint
Benedict, circa 1505 CE Aramaic Targum of Neofiti 1: Genesis 15:6-7]

Now to him who works {

eg: Sunday sacred sabbatarians and hymeneal occultists who marry and are
given in marriage contrary to Jesus of Nazareth's sayings [Luke 17:22-30;
Matthew 22:29-32; Mark 12:24-27; Luke 20:34 -38] and who's New Testament
theology as exegesis is obtained from the Chaldeans [Daniel 1:3-4] rather
than the Torah: "There is a man in your kingdom in whom is the Spirit of the
Holy God. And in the days of your father, light and understanding and
wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, were found in him; and King
Nebuchadnezzar {tears and groans of judgment} your father--your father the
king--made him chief of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and
soothsayers. Inasmuch, as an excellent spirit, knowledge, understanding,
interpreting dreams, solving riddles, and explaining enigmas were found in
this Daniel {God is my Judge}, whom the king named Belteshazzar {who lays up
treasures in secret}, now let Daniel be called, and he will give the
interpretation." [Daniel 5:11-12]

By contrast "...They say that Pythagoras (circa 580/570-c.500 BCE and
contemporaneous to the Hebrews Babylonian captivity) was an imitator of the
Orphean Constitutions, worshipping the gods after the manner of Orpheus,
placed in brazen images, not representing the forms of men, but of the gods
themselves, who comprehending and foreseeing all things, resemble in nature
and form the whole. He declared their purifications and rites, which are
called 'Teletai', having the most exact knowledge of them. Moreover they
affirm, he made a composition of the divine Philosophy and service, part
whereof he had learned from the Orpheans, part from the Egyptian Priests;
some from the Chaldeans and Magi; some from the Eleusinian Rites, and those
of Imber, and Samo-Thracia, and Delos, and Celtae, and Iberians.

Amongst the Latines also is read the Sacred Discourse of Pythagoras, not to
all, but to such as are admitted to the doctrine of excellent things, and
are not addicted to ought that is dishonest. It prescribes, that men offer
libation thrice; and Apollo {one who destroys; destroyer} gives Oracles from
a Tripod, because number first consists in a Triad. That we must sacrifice
to Venus on the sixth day, because that is the first common number of the
number of Universal Nature.

Now after all ways, the thing divided in like manner, assumes as well the
power of those things which are taken away, as of those which are left.
That to Hercules we ought to sacrifice on the eight day of the Month, in
respect of his being born at the end of seven Months." [Thomas Stanley,
Pythagoras, His Life and Teachings - Being a Photographic Facsimile of the
9th Section of the 1687 Edition of The History of Philosophy, p 545-546]

}, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not
work but believes on him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted
for righteousness, just as David {well belived; dear} in circa 1040 BCE also
describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart
from works:

"Blessed is he whose transgression is f****ven, whose sin is covered.
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD {YAHWEH} does not impute iniquity, and
in whose spirit there is no guile. ... For this cause eveyone who is godly
shall pray to you in a time you may be found; Surely in a flood of great
waters they shall not come near him. You are my hiding place; You shall
preserve me from trouble; You shall surround me with songs of deliverance.

I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will guide you
with my eye. Do not be like the horse or like the mule, which have no
understanding http://www.adventistreview.org/2003-1526/story2.html , which
must be harnessed with bit and bridle, else they will not come near you." [©
1982 Nelson Thomas, New King James Bible, Psalms 32:1-2; 6-9]

Does this blessedness then come upon the cir***cised only, or upon the
uncir***cised also? For we say that faith was accounted to Abraham for
righteousness. How then was it accounted? While he has cir***cised, or
uncir***cised? Not while cir***cised, but while uncir***cised." [[© 1982
Nelson Thomas, New King James Bible Romans 4:3-11]

"'...For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My
kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be
removed,' says the LORD, who has mercy on you. 'O you afflicted one, tossed
with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay your stones with
colorful gems, and lay your foundations with sapphires. I will make your
pinnacles of rubies, your gates of crystal, and all your walls of precious
stones.

All your children shall be taught by the LORD, and great shall be the peace
of your children. In righteousness you shall be established; You shall be
far from oppression, for you shall not fear; And from terror, for it shall
not come near you. Indeed they shall surely assemble, but not because of Me.
Whoever assembles against you shall fall for your sake. Behold, I have
created the blacksmith who blows the coals in the fire, who brings forth an
instrument for his work; And I have created the spoiler to destroy.

No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue which rises
against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the
servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is from Me," Says the LORD."
[© 1982 Nelson Thomas, New King James Version, Isaiah 54:10 -17]

- Qolon
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/

qolon

Given that one of our nation's sons, Mel Gibson is about to release his
testimony in film on the life of Jesus of Nazareth
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_795953.html , I think there is an
important comment which needs to be made concerning his interview in a
December 1991, where he is said to denouce ***s.

It is essential that recognition is also given to his other views raised at
the time where he is one of few individuals to have publically commented on
the lack of historical continuity and biblical integrity which comprise
Roman Catholic belief as it relates to that community of faith's traditional
understanding of the astrological/numerological term: MALAKOS {

Which is derived from the Greek/Egyptian sophistic sciences {sarkikos sophia
= Malakos where Mala means very; most in the greatest degree or
particularly:-chiefly, most of all, especially} by a numerological (cosmism
as ra=1) metathesis metaschematizo-{transform, of stars and planets,
changing of constellations; cf: Satan & his ministers are transformed into
angels-aggelos of light-phos
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/moment.html#ZOON

} and Hymeneal Occultism as ARSENOKOITES {

ie. Sunday sacred sabbatarians and hymeneal occultists who marry and are
given in marriage contrary to Jesus of Nazareth's sayings [Luke 17:22-30;
Matthew 22:29-32; Mark 12:24-27; Luke 20:34 -38] and who's New Testament
theology as exegesis is obtained from the Chaldeans [Daniel 1:3-4] rather
than the Torah http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/particular.html#TITLE

}:--

"Do I sound like a homo***ual?" he asked. "Do I talk like them? Do I move
like them?

"What happens is when you're an actor, they stick that label on you,"
Gibson said. "I go from playing rugby one week to taking dance classes in
black leotards the next. Many of the girls that I met in school took it for
granted that I was ***."

Gibson's holds extreme conservative views on other issues.

He has quit the Catholic Church because he believes the reforms of the
Second Vatican Council in the 1960s went too far.

"For 1,950 years [the church] does one thing and then in the 60s, all of a
sudden they turn everything inside out and begin to do strange things that
go against the rules," he explained to El Pais.

"Everything that had been heresy is no longer heresy, according to the
[new] rules. We [Catholics] are being cheated. ... The church has stopped
being critical. It has relaxed. I don't believe them, and I have no
intention of following their trends.

"It's the church that has abandoned me, not me who has abandoned it," he
said.

Like the Catholic Church, Gibson opposes birth control, saying, "God is the
only one who knows how many children we should have, and we should be ready
to accept them." [Copyright ©1992 Rex Wockner and affiliated publications
http://internetdump.com/users/glbtlasvegaslive/mgletter.html ]

Aegidius of Viterbo (1465-1532 CE) in writing of John Reuchlin's (1455-1522
CE) Kabbalistic work on the Hebrew letters which gave rise, due to
computation error to the Y2K fiction and an insubstantial claim to Jesus
Christ, notes that he "'had blessed him and all mortals by his works.'


Pythagorean book, as he reads all good books, greedily; then it was read by
Cardinal de'Medici (The Paedophile Pope 1475-1521 CE, as Cardinal at 13 yo,
Pope Leo X in 1513), and I am expecting next to have my turn.'

Christian speculation about the Kabbalah continued to develop under the
endowment of the Medicis in Florence where, at the Platonic Academy, it was
pursued in close connection with the new horizons opened up by the
Renaissance in general. These Florentine circles believed they had
discovered in the Kabbalah an original divine revelation to mankind that had
been lost and would now be restored. With the aid of which it was possible
not only to understand the teachings of Pythagoras, Plato, and the Orphics,
all of whom they greatly admired, but also the secrets and non-Christian
basis of the Catholic faith.

When speaking of their dependency on the Pythagorean/Chaldean {demons,
robbers} interpretation rather than the Torah as conveyed by Hebrew Torah
Scholar, Greek Philosopher and Christian Apostle Paul's use of those terms,
it is important to recognise his other comments on mysticism numerously
given [1Thessalonians 4:3-9] and that Pythagoras (circa 580/570-c.500 BCE)
being contemporaneous to the Hebrews Babylonian captivity, was an imitator
of the Orphean Constitutions, worshipping the gods after the manner of
Orpheus, placed in brazen images, not representing the forms of men, but of
the gods themselves, who comprehending and foreseeing all things, resemble
in nature and form the whole. He declared their purifications and rites,
which are called 'Teletai' {

Where katharmoi (purification rites) of the Lower Mysteries and teletai
(perfection of labours) pertaining to the Greater Mysteries of Bacchus,
whereby the thiaseuesthai (Initiate) is brought into the religious
fraternity or organisation (thiasos)

But as the Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul says, 'first-proton
proved-dokimazo' {cf: 'ekponein edokimaze' he approved of their working}.
The stem word 'dokh' [as in 'Lord-Kurios is the avenger-ekdikos'] denotes
that faith is active participation ie, 'tested in battle' as the most
fundamental category in the human quest for relation to transcendence and
therefore pushes aside an all too easy and passive identification of faith
with religion or belief:

"For this is the will-thelema of God-theos, even your
sanctification-hagiasmos, that ye should abstain from fornication-****eia
{hymeneal mysticism}

That every-hekastos one of you {individually; any, both, each (one), every
(man, one, woman)} should know-eido how to possess-ktaomai his vessel-skeuos
{The Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul was designated by Jesus Christ as the
'chosen-ekloge vessel-skeuos' within the early church [Acts 23:11-15]} in
sanctification-hagiasmos and honour-timê; Not in the lust-pathos of
concupiscence-epithumia {longing, desire; see: EPHESUS (desire); EVI as
unjust, desirous, my desire}, even-kai as the Gentiles-ethnos which-ho
know-eido not God-theos:

That no-me man go-huperbaino beyond-huperbaino {transcend} and
defraud-pleonekteo his brother-adelphos in any matter-pragma: because-dioti
that the Lord-Kurios is the avenger-ekdikos of all-pas such-touton, as we
also-kai have forewarned-proepo you and testified-diamarturomai. For
God-theos hath not called-kaleo us unto uncleanness-akatharsia (cf:
katharmoi (purification rites) of the Lower Mysteries and teletai
(perfection of labours) pertaining to the Greater Mysteries of Bacchus,
whereby the thiaseuesthai (Initiate) is brought into the religious
fraternity or organisation (thiasos); Arsenokoite/Arsenogenes [1Corinthians
6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10] = moral corruption concerning Everlasting Covenant
Defilement), but unto holiness-hagiasmos. He therefore-toigaroun that
despiseth-atheteo {to set aside, that is, (by implication) to disesteem,
neutralize or violate:-cast off, despise, disannul, frustrate, bring to
nought, reject}, despiseth-atheteo not man-anthropos, but God-theos, who
hath also-kai given-didomi unto us his holy-hagios Spirit-pneuma.

But as touching-peri brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia ye need-chreia
{employment, that is, an affair; also (by implication) occasion, demand,
requirement or destitution:-business, lack, necessary (-ity), need (-ful),
use, want; cf: Apostolic succession [Acts 6:1-7]} not that I write-grapho
unto you: for ye yourselves-autos are taught-theodidaktos of
God-theodidaktos to love-agapao one-allelon another-allelon."
[1Thessalonians 4:3-9 ]

}, having the most exact knowledge of them. Moreover they affirm, he made a
composition of the divine Philosophy and service, part whereof he had
learned from the Orpheans, part from the Egyptian Priests; some from the
Chaldeans and Magi; some from the Eleusinian Rites, and those of Imber, and
Samo-Thracia, and Delos, and Celtae, and Iberians. Amongst the Latines also
is read the Sacred Discourse of Pythagoras, not to all, but to such as are
admitted to the doctrine of excellent things, and are not addicted to ought
that is dishonest. The introduction of the Kabbalah into the Latin tongue
and founder of this Christian school of Kabbalah, according to Reuchlin'a
comments in 'De arte cabalistica', was the renowned Florentine prodigy
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-94 CE), who vainly believed on the basis
of axiology, that he could prove the dogmas of the Trinity and the
Incarnation on the basis of Kabbalistic axioms.

Although an axiom is generally recognised as truth of an established and
universally accepted rule. In logic, mathematics and the sciences, it is
essentially a proposition which is assumed without proof for the sake of
studying the consequences that follow from it. When Pico della Mirandola
declared that "'no science yields greater proof of angels, purgatory,
hellfire, and the divinty of Christ than magic and the Kabbalah,' Pope
Sixtus IV (1414-84 CE) 'was delighted and had the Kabbalah translated into
Latin for the use of students of divinity." [cf: Gustav Davidson's
Dictionary of Angels, p 24]

- Qolon
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/