tee.rex

Extremists resist Saudi reforms all the way .

Even the smallest change is too much for militants, who say the
reforms aremade at the expense of Islamic principles .
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RIYADH - A new child's textbook has sketches of boys and girls
together - normal classroom fare in many states but criticised by
extremists here as a government scheme to teach children to rebel
against the precepts of Islam.

As Saudi Arabia moves cautiously to reform its religious
establishment, education and media, extremists are saying that even
these small steps go too far and will corrupt the birthplace of Islam
- an argument similar to those Osama bin Laden uses to justify his
demand for the Saudi regime's fall.

One Islamic website, in an attack on the textbook, showed a drawing of
girls in a classroom and declared: 'To show this to male students is a
problem...A boy could remove it at every opportunity he has, kiss it
and return it to his desk drawer.'

The extremists argue that such materials reflect an effort by Saudi
Arabia's rulers to encourage children to rebel against the strict
segregation of the ***es enforced by the religious establishment.
Resistance to change is not new. Since the kingdom was established in
the 1930s, the ruling family has been contending with conservatives
who oppose every step towards modernisation.

Even so, it gradually introduced the radio, cars, girls' schools and
satellite TV.
But now, increasing violence - most recently Sunday's car bomb attack
on a housing compound for Arab expatriates - has brought home to the
Al-Sauds that time is not on their side.

The royal family faces four staggering problems:
It must liberalise its ailing economy, which means more contact with
the West;
It must satisfy many Saudis' desire for greater freedom and more say
in politics;
It must tame the radical religious elements so its role as guardian of
Islam's holy places will not be challenged; and
It must battle violent extremists who are believed to be encouraged by
the preaching of the religious establishment and its strict Wahhabi
Muslim philosophy.

'The state is in trouble now,' said reformist lawyer Abdulaziz
Al-Gasim.
'It was the one that created Wahhabism and Wahhabism is what's
strangling it now. It's strangling it because the state wants to fight
Al-Qaeda.'

In a sign of how seriously the royal family is taking the need for
change, a team made up of prominent people has been formed to speed up
reforms, according to a senior Saudi official, speaking on condition
of anonymity.
The religious establishment - under pressure - is also moving towards
reform.
It has imposed restrictions on Islamic charities to prevent donations
from funding terror. And many senior clerics are speaking out against
terrorism and extremism.

Deputy Islamic Affairs Minister Tawfeeq Al-Sediry said most preachers
would be re-educated to ensure they spread a moderate message.

The government is also introducing changes to the school curriculum -
a demand that the United States made after it was found that 15 of the
19 hijackers in the Sept 11 attacks were Saudis.

Some in Washington had asked if textbooks with harsh views of
non-Muslims had influenced the attackers.
Some portions offensive to Christians and Jews have been removed,
including a chapter in a religious textbook for ****s that warns
against befriending non-Muslims.

For progressive Saudis, the pace of reform is not fast enough. But for
the smaller, more militant segment of society, the change is too much.

One militant, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the reforms
were made at the expense of Islamic principles. He said many in the
religious community were incensed at the deletion of textbook
references to jihad and the rejection of non-Muslims. -- AP

ahmad sayuthi

I don't think they're resisting these `Saudi reforms'. It's more of a
hatred towards the Sauds who are seen as corrupted US arselickers.

hunter1

Or more a case of these ****less wonders being afraid that
their society of dominance through fear might be overturned
on them, and women might get a say, and so might everyone
else, and these ****less cowards will end up on the
scrapheap where they belong. Wont that **** for you ****less
wonders? Guess what!?! It's coming..... As a good author
once said, the avalanche has started, it's too late for the
pebbles to cast a vote.

hunter1

For ****s sake, this was written by an adult??? No wonder so
many of these idiots turn into suicidal terrorist loons! The
fundamentalist ****nuts are no better than children
themselves, and probly lack an IQ point or 50 on the average
child!

ahmad sayuthi

You're right - the avalanche has started and US arse-licking Sauds will be
swept away.

artiemorty

Ya' have to laugh - it seems that these turds assume the masses have
the same sick perversions they have. What is worse - every nutcase can
somehow find even more loons (good word) to follow them.

It's a pity Islamic Clerics don't take a vow of chastity. At least
then there would be a chance they were bred out.

But in the meantime, we have to listen to their 6th century bullshit.
There is nothing like ignorance to keep your followers at bay, this
combined with condoned violence and the promise of 70 virgins seems to
give every wanna be fool a club to join.

As I said - (if it wasn't so serious) you have to laugh.

Artie

hunter1

Hey, I've got no probs with your fairytales, but you might
find fundamentalism has suddenly found itself between a rock
and a hard place. About bloody time too, fundamentalists
show a lack of evolution, the Christians have gotten rid of
most of theirs but the Muslims have a lot of work to do yet
to grow up, they've got quite a number of fundamentalist
loons that need removal from the planet.

gazi_baba_1971

Ahmed, you are an ugly ****head!!! King Fahd has said that these
devils will be crushed by an iron fist. That iron fist will be
provided by the US Marines. And of course, Fahd knows what he is
talking about.

About 20 years ago Islamic militants holed up in that shit hole called
Kaaba oping Allah will protect their asses. But the Sauds used the
iron fist (in that case provided by the French Gendarmaries) to tear
the militants asses asunder.

The House of Saud and their US masters will prevail. And there is
nothing you or any other muslim swine can do about it. Except of
course, whining on the internet and posting your ridiculous pipe
dreams.

Salaam Walekum, you ****ing piece of shit!!

Yours friendly,

Gazi Baba 1971

ahmad sayuthi

It's "Ahmad", if you don't mind - with Malaysian spelling and pronunciation
and not the Arabic way.

So, what will these US Marines do??

Don't mind the Wahabi Fahd too much, Gazi Baba 1971. To take a line
from Hunter's phrase, he and the House of Saud are caught between the need
to lick Bush's arse, the reformists and the fundamentalists. These are
words from a fork-tongued viper who's living in constant fear of his days being numbered.

French Gendarmaries were involved? Don't know about this one but I'll just
assume it's correct just to amuse you, buddy. Anyway, that should have been
the wakeup call to the Sauds that something was going wrong inside. But
they chose to bury their heads in the sand, hoping that things would
magically be solved and go away.

I wouldn't bet my house on that, Ghazi Baba.

Walaikum Salam.


Yours super-friendly,

Ahmad Sayuthi 1984

hunter1

No, no, no... You've got it all wrong, ****less Muslim
terrorist fundamentalist extremists are stuck between a rock
and a hard place. The countries that support them seem to be
mysteriously vanishing, could be something to do with the
toppling of two govt's that supported them. We now have
Muslim leaders denouncing actions they once praised. I think
they've had a hard slap in the face, and finally realise
that their medieval tactics have no place in the modern
world, and that politically correct bullshit only stretches
so far with some people, push too far and suddenly you see
the govts of two countries toppled with the threat of this
continuing with any country that continues to support these
losers. Seems that the tide is turning and it aint going to
come back in! 8]

It wont be quick though, I'm sure plenty more innocents will
die at the hands of fundamentalist shitbags, and many many
more of these shitbags will die at the hands of the
civilised world before this ends.