red ted

Send him an email about how stupid it is. I did.

I vote Green and I think it's a stupid ****ing idea.

I told him he was going to lose a shitload of votes with a policy like
that. He's passing the entire cost of his policy onto the consumer and
letting the multinationals get away with packaging all their food in
shitloads of plastic. We wouldn't need so many plastic bags if we didn't
have so much ****ing plastic packaging to put in it.

Stop attacking the consumer and attack the companies that create the
problem. Get stuck into them about their packaging. The consumer won't
mind the extra cost as long as he is seen to be attacking the cause of
the problem in the first place.

Stop blaming the consumer and don't put the entire cost of your policy
onto them or I'm not voting Green next time.

email senator.brown@aph.gov.au

mikita corvana

Bloody Brown should go and do the shopping and see the bloody waste in
pacakaging that needs doing something about long before plastic bags.

If you take museli bars they could be packaged in boxes 60% the size
Savings - LESS cardboard - LESS fuel to transport - LESS energy to
manufacture - LESS printing ink - LESS glue - LESS EVERYTHING

Every brand of muesli bar is the same
The bloody Greens have lost the plot
NEVER will I vote Green or S***ocrats again.

Don't forget to put plenty of brown kisses on the e-mail to Bob Brown.

inver

I think it's a stupid ****ing idea voting green too.

stephen oakes

I think it's an annoying, but sensible idea. We simply don't need to use as
much plastic crud as we do, and most people simply won't adjust their habits
until it hits them in the money department.

Yep, so tax that too?

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Stephen Oakes

scott steel

On 19 Aug 2003 23:12:37 -0700, bernxard@yahoo.com.au (The

It might let Craig Lowndes win Bathurst B^P

Scott Steel

red ted

you would, but then you can't think for yourself, so it's much easier for
you to have an ideological master to tell you what to think and vote
accordingly.

bernxard

No it hasn't


True but then bin liner plastic bags usage went dramatically up while
the semi-reusable bags have 10 times more platic in them and I rekon
they don't last 10 shopping trips.

Raised millions in Revenue is the opperative pharse.

It has also lead to a massive increase in the purchase of bin liners
bags. The bin liners end up in the same place as the shopping bags once did.

I saw no big problem in Ireland before the tax nor did I see an
improvement after the new tax.

The subjective opinion of the Environment Minister who introduced a
knee jerk tax "plain to see" is hardly a reliable opinion. He is a
politician who introdiced a new tax afterall.

Coastwatch Ireland are currently conducting a survey of the Irish
coastline, where they are ****ysing litter, water quality and other
forms of pollution. It is part of the annual European survey and in
the Irish context it will be interesting to compare the number of
plastic bags on our shorelines with previous years.

The tax reduced supply of free plastic shopping bags but increased
purchases of bin liner bags and much heavier sem-reusable plastic bags.

Pissed up the wall on ineffective burerocracy and political pork
barrelling more like it.

The bags aren't "in circulation" they end up as landfill.


What a load of Shyte. These bags come mainly from fast food outlets.
It is merely necessary to force fast food outlets to use paper bags.

Alternatively you can just rely on people to put their bags in the
garbage.

Many of the plastic bags I see floating around have come of fast food
outlets or they have fallen out of upturned bins.

Which have about 10 times the plastic content. Weigh them like I did.

Australia has excellent recycling policies. From my experience, it's
about educating your children that recycling your trash, and not
putting it in the bin is the way forward. A tax won't work

The majority of waste in Australia is disposed of in landfills. A
recent survey carried out by Quantum Market Research for the Council
for the Encouragement of Philanthropy in Australia8 indicated that 75%
of people surveyed reused shopping bags as "free" bin liners. The
Nolan-ITU report estimates that 60% of bags taken home are reused as
bin liners or waste bags, lunch bags, and general carry bags.

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I think it's the same phenomena in Germany.

Australia would be in severe danger of plastic bag use reduction
if it introduced this tariff.
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It's worth a try anyway. If it works then great.
It couldnt get any worse.

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| hindsight is always 20/20. (WSJ)