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1 27th April 19:08
paredon
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wish to state for the record before proceeding that I do not hate Talmudic
Jews or any other race. I do not regard those people who call themselves
"Jews" as being any greater or lesser than anyone else, be they Arab,
American, African, Asian or whatever. I regard all people as being alike and
treat them thus. And the only reason I start by saying this is that whenever
I have engaged Talmudic Jews in a discussion of their faith, the moment any
criticism is offered a reflexive paranoia seems to consume them and I am at
once accused of being "antisemitic" or a "Jew-hater" and sometimes
threatened with legal action. I hate no-one, even those who malign me.
Indeed, I count amongst my good friends those who call themselves "Jews" and
have had close contact with Jews all my life. I will defend them against
nazis and anyone else who hates them for no other reason than that is their
race or religion.

My thesis is that those who call themselves "Jews" are not, with few
exceptions, connected remotely to the tribe of Judah, to ancient Israel, to
Shem (the forefather of the semitic peoples) or to father Abraham, but are
for the most part descendants of Japheth through the Khazars, a Turkic tribe
that converted to Talmudic Judaism in the Middle Ages in what is now the
Russian steppe. This religion they converted to - Talmudic Judaism, or more
simply "Judaism" - is not, I contend, the faith of Moses. It is a highly
corrupted and perverted version of the Old Testament faith which was the
precursor to the New Covenant fullness of Yah'shua (Jesus). Moreoever,
according to the apostolic witness of the New Testament, the modern day
"Republic of Israel" is not Biblical Israel but a counterfeit. Israel is
defined in the New Covenant as being any Israelite (Jew or Ephraimite) who
accepts Yah'shua (Jesus) as His Lord and Saviour, along with all
non-Israelites (Gentiles/Goyim) who do the same. So even if a Jew could
trace his patrilineage back to Judah, he would not be considered an
Israelite unless he has accepted Yah'shua (Jesus) as his Messiah (Christ)
and is walking in New Covenant Torah. The fact that he may be using the Name
of YHWH, observing Hebrew festivals, and living in the Holy Land does not
make him the heir of Abraham or of his blessings. For more information, see
my Messianic FAQ page
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2 27th April 19:08
paredon
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Q. Are the Jews living in the modern State of Israel true Jews entitled to
the promises made by God in the Old Testament?

Some of them. The promises made by God refer to the literal descendants of
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and not to any "adopted" into Israel by conversion
to Judaism unless they intermarried as Ruth and Rahab did, for example. The
only adoption into Israel that is recognised by God is when non-Hebrews
accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

Nobody knows for sure now many Israelis are true descendants of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob. Only God knows. The promises do not extend to those who,
like the Khazars, Ethiopian Fallashas or African Jews, converted to Talmudic
Judaism.

Those who are truly of the seed of Abraham (and that includes the Arabs who
come under similar though different promises) will, in the end, convert to
Christ. They do not necessarily need to be 100% Abrahamite (I doubt if
anyone qualifies!) and may only be 1% -- those who are of the true seed of
Israel will possess certain qualities which will reflect the blessings made
to Abraham's seed. You can read about these qualities in the tribal natures
or dispositions. For example, true Josephites (Ephraimites and Manassahites)
will reflect the qualities of the Patriarch Joseph and of men like Joshua,
and true "Jews" (Judahites is a better term because a "Jew" may be a convert
to Talmudic Judaism) will reflect the qualities of the Patriarch Judah and
of men like Peter and James. The best example of a Benjaminite would be Paul
with King Saul another on the negative side. Danite nature is reflected in
such characters as Samson.

A good portion of Israeli as well as diaspora Jews (in the USA, for example)
are almost certainly of Turkic and Germanic origin -- the number of blonde,
blue-eyed Jews is astonishing!

The true Judahites, Levites, Benjaminites and Simeonites will be sorted out
from amongst the stock which we today call "Jews" and will accept Jesus
Christ as Lord and Saviour, in the same way as the wheat and tares will be
sorted out from amongst those who call themselves "Christian". New Covenant
Christians believe that as only a small minority of true believers in Christ
will be sifted out from amongst the "Christians", so also only a small
minority of true Israelites will be sifted out from amongst world-wide
Jewry. The latter will embrace Jesus as Saviour and be united with the true
Christian believers.

We are often asked if we support the State of Israel and it is worthwhile,
at this juncture, to say something about this. The answer is "yes" and "no".
We suppport the existence of an Israelite State within the borders defined
in the Bible but we do not support Zionism for the reasons given above. We
do not regard the present Israeli Republic as true "Israel" for several
reasons:

(1) Even assuming all those claiming to be "Jews" were actually descendants
of Judah, what of the other tribes? The Land of Israel was not given to just
Judah, Simeon and Banjamin, but to Joseph and his other brothers too;

(2) As we have said, the Jews are not a pure race, and a great many who walk
under the name "Jew" have no inheritance rights there;

(3) All those who are true believers in Christ have a right of inheritance
in the Land of Israel, including born-again Christian 'Palestinian' (and
other) Arabs.


I repeat: the land of Israel, as defined in the Bible as stretching from the
Nile to the Euphrates, belongs ultimately to all the true sons and daughters
of Abraham either by literal descent or by adoption. These will include the
literal blood descendants of Jacob who have received Christ and all those
from every other race under the son who truly accept the Saviour of mankind.
This means that in the Israeli Republic there are both legitimate inheritors
of the land as well as impostors who, because they will never accept Christ,
will be killed at the Second Coming or be cast out of that Land.

What of the Israeli Republic in divine providence? Was the State that became
independent after World War II a part of the divine scheme? Our answer is,
yes, conditionally. It is not the State of Israel prophsied in the Bible but
a precursor to it.

What of the Palestinian Arabs? Do they have a right to the land? The answer
is if they accept Christ as Lord and Saviour then they have inheritance
rights as great as any Messianic Jews. What of Muslim Palestinians? Like the
unbelieving Jews, they have no rights at all.

This means that those who are living in the Land of Israel who do not
receive Christ as Saviour when He returns (if they have not already been
killed) will be expelled from the land, because it is holy, as an unbeliever
would be expelled from the Temple for defiling it. So who has inheritance
rights today?

The answer is, we don't know, because God has not yet fully revealed who are
the true Jews and Arabs. There are "Jews" and Arabs in Israel who have no
right to be there in God's eyes even if they have been living in the land
for centuries or even millennia. Modern social and political science is
meaning- less and so as a Church we do not recognise what might be called
secular "rights". The Land of Israel is not just like other countries -- it
is God's own country on earth and it is up to God, and not men, to decide
who has the right to live there.

We do not, therefore, support the unconditional immigration of all and any
Jews who want to move to the Israeli Republic. That is why New Covenant
Christians do not unconditionally support migration schemes from, for
example, Russia. We are not opposed to them because we do not know which are
the true Israelites but by the same token we do not actively support them.
We pray that all the true sons of Abraham will find their way home, if that
is where God has called them at this particular time.

It should also be added that we do not support orthodox Talmudic Judaism
which is militantly anti-Christian and which is even now at the time of
publication, advocating a law which would make Christian proseletysing
illegal in the Israeli Republic. Indeed, Talmudic Judaism, like its militant
Islamic counterpart, is anti-Christ..

Since God has not yet passed judgment as to who will be permitted to live in
the Land of Israel ultimately neither can or ought we to either. The whole
issue of a Palestinian State is quite irrelevant because neither it (if it
ever exists as an independent entity) or the present Israeli Republic is
permanent. The secular/orthodox Jewish State has no future, and neither will
any Palestinian State if it is ever created. What is happening in the Land
of Israel today is but the continuing story of the struggle by various
parties to gain political control. As New Covenant Christians the only
Israeli State that intersts us is the Patriarchal Christian Theocratic one
which Christ Himself will establish.

As Christians we do, of course, love all peoples, even those who say they
are the sons of Abraham but are not. Most of us know little about our true
genealogy or racial origins. We are all mixed up, Jews as well as Gentiles,
and we would never be able to prove our true racial origins (interesting,
the Arabs are amongst the least mixed up races). Nor need we any longer.
When it comes to the final settlement of the Holy Land in the Millennium we
will only need to establish that we are New Covenant Patriarchal Christian
Israelites. And it will be obvious then who these true Israelites are --
whether Arab, Judahite or Gentile.

So do not look to the present Israeli Republic for a vision of the
Millennial Israel. What you see is but a hybrid, a melting pot of the same
goodness and filth that is to be found in almost every country in the world,
and those who calls themselves Jews are not necessarily under any special
divine protection. The Israeli Republic will not, however, be overwhelmed or
exterminated by her Arab neighbours and Israel will not automatically be
given divine protection just because her Jewish population claims to be
God's chosen. Indeed, the Bible tells us that a terrible fate awaits
Jerusalem in the last days; indeed, we may expect a holocaust far worse that
anything perpetrated by Hitler, not only against the hybrid Jewish people
(who, from the point-of- view of her Muslim enemies, are as much Jewish by
religion as by race) but against Christians too. And furthermore expect much
evil to be committed by "Jews" in the future, especially Israeli Jews whose
brutality is coming to match that of her historic foes. There are many
Christians who believe that anti-Christ may be Jewish and this is not
altogether impossible.

Thus the New Covenant view of Israel and Jews is not as clear-cut as that of
many conservative Christian groups and yet ironically we are far more Hebrew
than all of them put together. Indeed, we might say that we are more Hebrew
that many Messianic Jews! And that is because we do not subscribe to the
racist propaganda, either pro or con, that has been used to whip up hysteria
for or against the Israeli Republic, most of it based on either
sentimentality, guilt (because of the last war) or historical animosity.

We have also been asked our position about land possession in the Israeli
Republic today and whether we support the establishment of a Palestinian
State and the eviction of Palestinian Arabs from their homes by the Israeli
State.

We do not believe it is right to force anyone to leave their homes anywhere
in any country, and that includes Israel. Thus the forced eviction of Arabs
from their homes is contrary to true morality. We do not support the
existence of a "Palestinian State", however, because there is no biblical
mandate for one, and we would even question the term "Palestinian Arab",
which is a term of more recent origin (the word "Palestine" being derived
from an extinct non-Arab people called the Philistines who never controlled
more than the coastal strip area of the present State of Israel; thus the
description of "Palestine" as being the fomer British mandate area is an
historical and geographical misnomer). At the same time we do not believe
that the Israeli Republic has any divine mandate to do what it wants -- it
is a caretaker government until Christ assumes the kingship and establishes
His own theocratic government. The right way is that Jews and Arabs try
co-exist in a unitary Israeli State.

We do not support the Oslo Accords which seek the creation of a Palestinian
State within Israetlite territory. We would not, however, be opposed, in
principle, to the establishment of a Palestinian State on the east bank of
the Jordan where Palestinian Arabs have always outnumbered the Hashemite
Arabs who rule the present-day "Kingdom of Jordan". But the opportunity to
create such a state has long since passed into history and would in any case
be undesirable. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan has, in any case, proved
itself to be a stable, moderate Arab nation, and has, in most instances (its
support of Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War was one blot in its copy book),
set a good example in the Arab world worthy of emulation.

We have consistently maintained in the pages of this and other New Covenant
Christian publications, that the truth is rarely as simple as it is
portrayed. We pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for the safe return of her
true sons and daughters! In the meantime, 'Jews' and 'Palestinian' Arabs
must learn to get on with one another. We are, admittedly, not very hopeful
because of the two militant religions (Talmudic Judaism and Islam) that are
constantly at each other's throats, and for this reason we believe that
peace will not come to the Middle East until the Millennium. There is much
trial and suffering ahead, alas. We support all efforts to broker peace
provided it is God's peace and not the world's. Thus we have always believed
that the Oslo Accords were doomed to failure, as indeed has proved to be the
case. Therefore the onus of responsibility for peacemaking must fall upon
Christians in the preaching of the Gospel and in much intercessory prayer.
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