27th June 23:22
Why can't the government be for the people?
For how a single-issue representative should represent his constituents,
see my message <email@example.com>. ----snip----
From the description, it intended more than that. Why were people's entertainments interrrupted?
So if people don't sufficiently care about some measure, they don't
vote, and if enough don't vote, it doesn't get approval and doesn't
Might teach the politicians a lesson or two about relevance and
conciseness, not to mention governing FOR the people.
What has that to do with the the establishment's "[equation of]
genuine democracy with the tyranny of the mob, and with progroms against themselves"?
No. It requires that parliaments be elected. It does not require
that all citizens have equal opportunity to stand, and is therefore not democratic.
After receiving instructions from the Party's masters, but not from their constituents.
No. Your logic's fine. Your misrepresentation of what I wrote is the
main problem. I'm saying that we don't have *genuine* democracy.
Representative democracy, even in theory, is no more than a pallid
imitation of the real thing. In practice, it always degenerates into
elective oligarchy (except, as here, when it starts out that way).
And you pulled that figure out of *which* region of thin air?
Not that it matters: if enough people don't vote for a proposal,
it doesn't become Law. The reason(s) they don't vote for it don't
change that. ----snip----
History's examples contradict you. The people of ancient Athens often
had to be "roped in" to routine assemblies (which agrees with what you
say about people not giving a toss), but at no time in their history
did they accept dictatorship. The democracy was overthrown at one
point by a foreign invader who garrisoned the city and imposed a
government of eleven men. They evicted the garrison and restored
the democracy. See message <firstname.lastname@example.org>
in this thread.
Do you have another democracy-has-a-problem scenario?
It's a good proposal: lifts parliamentary accountability. You deserve
recognition both for coming up with it and for putting in the work
you did. More importantly, it should have been put in place. Why did
it die? You say "[it] was probably burned along with the rest of the
rubble from the NSW division", but really, that's no explanation.
It's *one* way.
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