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2nd February 16:17
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Greetings. This is in response to the excellent articulation by Ms
Ruby Zigrino, link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nabic-l/message/2907 I have some questions and concerns, however, as I noticed some words in Ms Zigrino's comments such as 'democracy and civil society' and a 'proposition' for a 'Muslim organization' that can be 'forceful' and eventually become 'formidable' in the rebuilding of Iraq. How compatible are political organizations founded on religious frames/ideologies and the ideologies of democracy and civil society? I ask because my assumption is that a modern, civil society is more likely pluralist than not. When a political party proposes solutions that are filtered by its religious leanings---which will be the case for a 'Muslim' organization, otherwise such labeling would be needless---how could it cater to ALL groups within the society and remain fair? Or might it be that in her proposition, Ms Zigrino implied that religious parties would propose solutions only for those communities that endorse their faith position? If the latter, might that not promote separatism than support the need for people to work together on social issues? If within a democracy political parties are allowed to form on the basis of religion, have we addressed the inherent design flaw of most world faiths that, if truly adhered to and not postured about, could become serious impediment to upholding democracy for all? For instance, in the Bible it is said that, according to Jesus, nobody comes to God but through him. In Islam, superiority of its divine message above all other faiths is also clearly articulated. Both are arbitrary at the core, regardless of the sincerity of belief of their adherents. I respectfully request that no one offer an interpretive balderdash as to how these two major world faiths consider everyone as equal. For if either one did that, it would logically nullify its need to push its supremacist ideologies and commandments. Therefore, it seems clear that, for a civil society to maintain its civility where all humans are treated as equals in regards to rights and privileges, any religion-centric organization having a political force would impede the maintenance much more than enhance its balanced perpetuation. Consequently, in the serious matter of rebuilding Iraq, how could a 'Muslim' organization influence it as a political force by re-framing all its social initiatives through its version of 'Islamic' prism, thus affecting the 'balance' and 'independence' that appear to be of understandable concern to Ms Zigrino? Some Islamic people have proposed we ignore our religious differences and focus on our common ground. It can be possible, but quite likely and only if we approach all social challenges, including but not limited to rebuilding of a nation, for instance, from a neutral standpoint where humanity and its common ground is recognized as the only basis. As soon as we insist to toss in a religious frame of reference, such as a 'Muslim' party participating in a political process of a nation's rebuilding, we run the risk of introducing religion-based arbitrary hierarchies that cannot be logically argued as having the design-flexibility to ensure the 'balance' and 'independence' proponents for such party also claim to seek. Arguably, it seems critical to acknowledge the fundamental (design) flaw of the temptation to mix religion with ANY modern political process that aspires to ensure equality among all citizens in regards to rights and privileges. Simplistically speaking but poignant nonetheless, mixing supremacist ideologies with politics while contending we prefer democracy and civil society can be likened to drinking several glasses of Electric Screwdriver (an alcoholic beverage made up primarily of orange juice and a little vodka, etc., but it has the visual appearance of plain orange juice) but ignoring the risk of getting intoxicated, which is but a logical consequence thereof. If Muslims indeed seek democracy and civil society in a manner that subordinates the heritage of religion-based supremacist claims---with religion-based moral bullyism of the majority serving as a tool of the government and the law---they ought to exercise prudence to recognize this fundamental flaw/danger. People can practice their faith at home but they ought not to support political parties that can play moral arbiters of everyone based upon religious leanings that are NOT open to "debate," unlike the secular laws that people can challenge, debate over, and change---a critical flexibility to ensure their viability and relevance, in the face of evolution that appears to be only natural and in accordance with the laws of nature. If some of us believe that a Creator governs over everything in nature then they ought to welcome social change as occurring WITHIN that natural order, resisting the temptation to impede its flow by imposing upon a modern society moral dictates which are primarily interpretative and historically diagnosed as having been erroneous numerous times. Yet when peddled those can't be "debated" for fear of blasphemy and punishment. Because those are "believed" to be "ordained," the directive of their proponents, when and if representing the majority faith, often has been "just shut up and do what we tell you." However, there should be a civil process to speculate potential fallouts from any social change--that is always a probability--but such process ought not be stymied by inflexible and primarily-interpretive notions of God's wishes, lassoing its natural, secular frames to which all participants regardless of their religion must have equal participatory access. When offering proposals to help rebuild Iraq, I hope our esteemed members consider these angles and feel less compelled to tether the proposals to an Islamic frame of reference. Respectfully, S Munir I __________________________________________________ _ Courtesy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nabic-l/ |
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