romanise

For them killing off women is Islamic proper.

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romanise

Government and independent researchers estimate that over 4,000 women
have fallen victim to this practice [karo-kari] in Pakistan over the
last six years.

..... the accused could negotiate pardon with the victim's family under
the so-called Islamic provisions.


A pckie recently termed this practice as vestige of hindiusm in Islam.

What value a religion has that cannot get rid of a custom practiced in
a religion which it replaced 1400 years back?

riglin

Why point at Hinduism when most of the Muslims countries are doing it. Do
the Hindus still do it today?

Excerpt from SecularIslam.org
"Every year, in countries in the Arab world, Turkey, Iran and some south and
central Asian countries, many hundreds of women who do not accept the tribal
and Islamic traditions; refuse forced marriages; marry according to their
will; or live independently, are murdered by their family member, to save
the 'honour' of the family. The practice is widespread in Islamic countries
and is known as honour killing. Women, who have brought 'shame' to family's
'honour', are sentenced to death by family courts and the sentence is
usually carried out by male members of families. Under special laws, the
killers are given light sentences, sometimes with little or no jail time at
all. The killers mainly defend their act of murder by referring to the Koran
and Islam. They say that they are merely following the directives set down
in their Islamic beliefs."

habshi

Pakistan rejects pro-women bill

Women rights groups want strict legislation against honour killings
The Pakistan government has allied with Islamists to reject a bill which sought to strengthen the
law against the practice of "honour killing".
The parliament rejected the bill by a majority vote on Tuesday, declaring it to be un-Islamic.

Honour killing is the name given to murders where the offender claims the victim, usually a woman,
had brought his family into disrepute.

The bill was rejected after being declared un-Islamic by a majority vote.

Law Minister Wasi Zafar told parliament that there was no need for further amendments in the
country's penal code after an amendment bill was passed last December.

However, the opposition - along with several women members from the government benches - has
continued to call for further amendments, arguing that the law remained riddled with many loopholes
despite the amendment.

Tuesday's bill was introduced by Ms Kashmala Tariq, a member of the ruling Muslim League.

"Karo-kari"

Under the so-called Islamic legislation enacted by General Zia ul Haq, Pakistan's Islamist military
ruler in the 1980s, proven killers could seek or buy pardon from the victim's family under the
Islamic principles of compromise.


Observers say Islamists still wield influence in parliament

The law has remained essentially unchanged since then.

Observers say that it has been grossly misused and has contributed directly to an alarming increase
in the practice of "karo-kari" or the so-called honour killings.

Karo-kari is a tradition whereby a man can kill a woman, claiming that she brought dishonour to the
family, and still expect to be pardoned by her relatives.

Once such a pardon has been secured, the state has no further writ on the matter.

Women victims

Human rights agencies in Pakistan have repeatedly emphasised that most women falling prey to
karo-kari were usually those wanting to marry of their own will.


Islamists have an uneasy relationship with the government

In many cases, the victims held properties that the male members of their families did not wish to
lose if the women chose to marry outside the family.

Government and independent researchers estimate that over 4,000 women have fallen victim to this
practice in Pakistan over the last six years.

In December last year, the government passed a bill making karo-kari punishable under the same penal
provisions as murder.

But it did not alter the provisions whereby the accused could negotiate pardon with the victim's
family under the so-called Islamic provisions.

These provisions often in conflict with the Anglo-Saxon law inherited by Pakistan in 1947.

Observers in Pakistan say that the defeat of Ms Tariq's bill is a clear indication of the influence
that the conservatives still wield on policy-making in Pakistan, despite President Musharraf's
liberal outlook.

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romanise

Hindu women burnt themselves out of fear of being raped by muslims.
Muslims are known to rape their own women.
Hindus never killed their women. Unborn girls are getting aborted by
Hindus a Sikhs in the region that had most Islamic influence.
Hindu women were as free as hindu men. They started to cover their
faces in the region where muslims could use thuggery the most.


time at

the Koran

down

mash_ghasem

Sky is the limit. Any other question?


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theromanov

What's Karo-Kari? Sounds like that Japanese Hara-Kiri. These Pakis
really invent something out of nothing when it is not even an Islamic
teaching.

It f**cking culture you fool. Can't even differentiate between
fundamental teaching and human invented culture.

haftkhat

mash_lajan komoleh,

kosskesh, are you komoleh fans pimping
for your marxist mama's now? hehehe

kurdistan THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS
your comrad will die one by one in mountain, mark my word, zan jende

romanise

Read poster Seeker's arguments similar to yours on thread
In Pakistan, rivals foreclose on the losers' family this way

That poster writes that this practice was prevelant in the birth place
of Islam as the religion of Hindus was practiced there before Mohemed's
time.

Is not a religion human invented?

If Islam cannot remove inhuman practices what worth is that religion?

theromanov

That does not represents Islamic teaching. Rivalry leading to death is
doomed with sins for both the Muslims sides.


Victim's family forgiveness of the accused is but not killing of women
who dishonours family of spouse.

Inhuman practices does not reflect Islamic teaching. That is your
problem when you have a prejudice mindset relating human behavior with
religion particularly Islam. So narrow minded and stupid.

Does torturing oneself with Kavadi hooked to the body in Hindu is
religiously a must?