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1 25th September 11:01
nedflanders@psu.edu (ned
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If anyone would be able to answer a question I would be most grateful.
What is the availability of straw bales on the Big Island? And what
is the average cost per bale? It can be any material, rice, wheat,
etc. Thanks again.

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Ned
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2 26th September 08:20
normals@webtv.net (ben
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If horse hay sells for around Twenty five a bale straw must be Fif****
dollars or so
not cheap like on the mainland for about Two Dollars and fifty cents
bale. It use to be cheaper but you know how inflation goes once is
goes to Islands if no one owns land that has straw from Oats

wheat straw they bale or make building
material in sheets like plywood. Its smells and they even make straw
bales to build walls in houses as an insulation factor and finish the
bales off like reg. walls.

Heck in the Kansas, Colorato, Nebraska all through these areas they use
to make the sod houses with sod roofs

Sometimes when it rained the roof would
get so wet fall in. on you and the dirt floor, now hows that for a
house.
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3 26th September 16:57
howard bennett
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You know, there's a guy on the Hamakua Coast who's cutting and baling Guinea
Grass and then trucking it up to Waimea. Much as the stuff is a nightmare
for those of us who'd like to grow anything else, Guinea Grass is an
incredible fodder, and, especially when it's young and tender -- very very
tasty for our hooved friends.

Probably a lot cheaper than hay. You're welcome to come cut mine anytime
you like!

Though it just occured to me -- are you maybe planning to build one of those
trendy straw bale houses? Probably not a good idea in Hawaii.
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4 27th September 04:28
nedflanders@psu.edu (ned
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Ok, now you got me, why would this not be a good idea in Hawaii?

Cheers,

Ned
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5 27th September 04:28
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Fif**** dollar a bale should be a good reason why not to build with
straw, perhaps dampness would be another if the bales aren't rendered
properly, have you considered building with rammed earth using
crushed lava as a base.
Aloha Ed
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6 27th September 04:28
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Tropical climates are humid. You'd be living in a decaying compost heap.
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7 27th September 04:28
michael j wise
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With rats.
Don't forget the rats.

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8 27th September 10:46
nedflanders@psu.edu (ned
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Never heard of a pili grass hale? And how do you keep the wood from
composting in your walls?

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Ned
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9 27th September 10:46
normals@webtv.net (ben
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You mean like a sod house, they do build straw houses you have to
really have them so that they do not get wet or the mice and rats would
get in them a make nests bugs also would be difficult not mention
the smell is not good and the mould and also a fire hazard may build
up need wall board inside and outsideand something on the outside to
keep the elements out.

No not a good idea
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10 27th September 10:46
dan birchall
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I'm in Hawaii, on the Big Island, and I don't see any reason it'd be a
particularly bad idea. (And yes, I'm familiar with straw bale houses in
other locations.)

Humidity might be an issue if you're building in Hilo or some parts of the
Hilo-Hamakua coast. Kona's pretty dry. And even in Hilo, there are times
of the year that are pretty dry, where there should be more than enough
days in a row to build a straw bale house and seal the walls with sprayed-on
stucco.

Of course, if you just can't get past the "but Hilo's HUMID!" meme, there's
always COB construction; there are houses hundreds of years old in damp,
dreary old England that are made of that stuff. So the straw could still
be used.

"Oh, but the straw will get moldy!" I live in Hilo, and trust me on this,
ANYTHING that mold can find a way to grow on will, and does, get moldy
here. A relatively inorganic stucco may actually be a BETTER choice for
a home exterior than, say, wood.

"Oh, but there will be rats!" Uh, yeah... there will be, and are, rats.
The rats don't particularly care what construction materials you choose...
at least, I've never heard them express any preference. Ditto for the
cute little mice, and the big roaches, and the geckos, skinks, spiny orb
spiders, earwigs, crickets and ants.

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