jerry aspar

Under the Wednesday June 18, 2003 headline

Harris poll: Iraq really had WMDs

UPI reports:

Pollsters said the data suggests "a majority of
Americans feel good about the war, believe we were
justified in attacking Iraq, and do not want to
hear, or accept the possibility, that the reasons
for going to war might have been misleading."


What are the marks of today's Superpower pagans?


They are POLYTHEISTIC, and their two gods are:

The Superpower's homefront troops personified as
the Great True-Believer, the feminized "civilian."

The Superpower's frontline troops personified as
the God of Terror, the masculinized "soldier."


These pagans see the Earth as a THEOPHANY showing
forth their divinity:

For are they not the racist gods of the other
peoples?

And do not all their things of war proclaim the
divine presence of these supergods?


Bernard, last of the Fathers of the Christian church,
in sermon thirty-two of "Sermons on the Canticle Of
Canticles":

And so, you who do not love yourself for any
other reason than because you love God, [then]
as a consequence, you love as yourself all who
love Him as you do.

But in the case of an enemy, since he is nothing
for the reason that he does not love God, you
cannot, surely, love him as yourself you who
love God.

But you will love him so that he may in future
be brought to love God.


Can the pagans in The Superpower's

CHURCH OF EVIL

ever really be brought to love God ?


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light templar

Not true. We don't mind hearing it, after a proper investigation. No half
baked bullshit
flying around the media and usenet. Most of us are waiting for the
conclusions of the congressional hearings.

john agosta

What hearings ?
The repubs are trying to SQUASH any hearings that may
question the actions and motives of everying this administration does.

GOA suit into the Cheny/Ley Whitehouse confrences
to form national energy strategy? SQUASHED.

Inverstigation into 911, who knew what and when?
(I am not a 'liberal.' What has made me so impassioned about
this admin and their deception is the fact that I lost two family members at
WTC,
and this admin is doing nothing to answer the real questions about the
issue.)
Instead, they SQUASH any idea of looking into what happened.
Just trust us.
Fuck you.

So has an inverstigation into the Iraq war, and the 'possible' misleading
or lying to the American people going to happen?
Or, has it been SQUASHED?

Tell me if there actually is a congressional, and even better, independent,
investigation
that is going to take place. I think any talk about that has been SQUASHED
by
this admin. Maybe I'm wrong about his last one. But on the first two, I am
dead-on.
I'm tired of secrets and deception. These people are just covering thier
ass, asking us
to trust everything the say, and more of us are paying the price with OUR
LIVES each day.

Get 'em out. Now.

-ja

light templar

The hearings that started two days ago.

john agosta

Honest question:

Who is heading the hearings?
What networks, news channels, newspapers are covering
the hearings?

(Other than CSPAN special sessions at 12 midnite.)

Thanks for the input !

light templar

If the hearings doesn't come out the way you want them to, does that
automatically constitute "squashed" ?

light templar

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate Intelligence Committee will hold closed-door
hearings as part of its ongoing review of U.S. intelligence on Iraq, the
chairman of that panel announced Wednesday, but there will not be a formal,
public inquiry as sought by Democrats.

The move comes amid questions about whether the Bush administration
manipulated intelligence data to bolster its case for war.

Sen. Pat Robert, R-Kansas, made it clear that he has seen no evidence that
any intelligence data was slanted or politicized, but he said the
allegations from anonymous officials saying they were under pressure to
"skew their analysis" were serious and "must be cleared up."

"If any officials believe... that they have been pressured to alter their
assessment, they have an obligation -- and I encourage them -- to contact
the committee," Roberts said at a press conference attended by other
Republican members of the Senate committee and his House counterpart. No
Democrats attended the news conference.

Roberts said his panel would work with the Senate Armed Services Committee,
but a joint formal investigation would be "very premature."

"Let's do our homework first," he said.

White House reaction
At the White House, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said the administration
would cooperate with Congress.

"The administration welcomes the review," Fleischer said. "It's important.
We always work together with Congress on dealing with the threat of Iraqi
possession of WMD and we will continue to work with Congress on the facts
that led previous administrations, Democrats, Republicans alike, to know
that he had WMD."

Sen. John "Jay" Rockefeller, vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence
Committee, said he welcomed the upcoming hearings, but described them as
"not sufficient" and called for a "full fact-finding investigation."

"We need to be able to request additional intelligence documents; interview
intelligence community and administration officials, past and present; hold
closed and open hearings, and prepare a final public report on lessons
learned," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement.

The Bush administration has come under fire from some Democrats and critics
abroad because no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq,
despite U.S. and British statements before the war that Iraqi President
Saddam Hussein was harboring and developing such banned weapons.

Arguing that Saddam posed a global threat, coalition forces, led by the
United States, invaded Iraq in March, toppling the Iraqi regime. Saddam
remains unaccounted for, and the search for weapons of mass destruction
continues.

President Bush recently pointed to the discovery of what he described as two
"mobile biological weapons facilities" as evidence of Saddam's interest in
and Iraq's capability of producing biological weapons. But no actual WMD
have been found, and criticism of the administration has grown sharper and
louder in recent weeks -- particularly from Democrats.

Wednesday, for example, Sen. Joseph Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters the Bush administration
"embellished" and "hyped" intelligence concerning Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program, though he added, "I believe those weapons do exist."

"I am not accusing them of cooking the books," Biden of Delaware said. "I am
accusing them of hyping--it's different."

"They took the truth and they embellished it in my view," he added.

CIA Director George Tenet and other members of the administration have
denied that claim.

U.N. report
A recent U.N. report on the matter was inconclusive, saying there was no
evidence before the war that Iraq had reconstituted its chemical, biological
or nuclear weapons programs.

But the report also noted that Iraq was unable to account for chemical or
biological weapons it claimed to have destroyed, and weapons inspectors were
unable to clear up discrepancies before they left Baghdad in advance of the
invasion.

Roberts said his committee was already reviewing intelligence documents
supplied by the CIA director. The review, he said, would evaluate "the
intelligence underlying the pre-war assessments of Iraq's WMD capability and
its connections to terrorists groups."

It would also evaluate the "reasonableness" of the assessments and their
accuracy by comparing them with the results of the ongoing search, Roberts
said.

"Beginning next week, I intend to hold hearings on a number of topics
relevant to this review and our ongoing oversight of the intelligence
agencies," Roberts said, promising a "deliberate and bipartisan" approach.

Sen. John Warner, chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee, said his
panel was also reviewing the CIA material.

"The evidence that I have examined does not rise to give the presumption
that any one in this administration has hyped or cooked or embellished such
evidence to a particular purpose," Warner, R-Virginia, said.

-- CNN National Security Correspondent David Ensor and Congressional
Producer Trish Turner contributed to this report.

light templar

And your numbers come from?

tempest

From reading the news.


Poll: Majority Backs Use of Force in Iran

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hptop_ts

About one in four Americans incorrectly believes Iraq used chemical or
biological weapons against U.S. forces during the conflict.
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http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/6070307.htm
Before the war, half of those polled in a survey said Iraqis were among
the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11, 2001.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt

malev

Stupid lot these Americans, eh?

Incredibly stupid lot, eh?