It makes no difference what the Jews believe, Neptune, even if your correct.

They are a nuclear power. They have wipped the pants off of the arabs many
times. They are there to stay, and if left alone, probably won't attack
anybody.

Get practical. Live with it, or die because of it.

don ocean

Is that good or bad.?..It does appear that quite a number of countries
have
joined the WMD club. Personally I am worried about Israel triggering a
WMD
war from one of the Islamic nations. It will have massive worldwide
consequences.
And You should be more worried about Biological and chemical weapons.
Nuclear pales
in comparison..

They have wipped the pants off of the arabs many


I guess all the help they recieved...Weapons, billions of US dollars,
Intell(eye in the sky)
etc didn't count for a hill of beans in this lopsided warfare? And don't
forget the many
many times the US has vetoed UN sanctions aginst Israel!

They are there to stay, and if left alone, probably won't attack


Does that mean their lobbyist will uncamp from our congress, Senate and presidency?

don ocean

Must we be assaulted with this sad incident again? That Young lady
entered
an area of violence and very ignorantly challenged a military bulldozer.
Her act of stupidity heavily contributed to her demise. And yes some of
the
blame goes to the IDF. But basically I have learned to avoid violent
area's
and have taught my children the same. If they choose to challenge the
odds...
Well what can one say or think? The same went/goes for her... :-(

<snipped for clarity>

darkmatter

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:49:59 -0500, neptune3 <nptn3@hotmail.com> Gave
us:

snipped utter stupidity.

You're an idiot, neptune. Get used to it.

neptune3

She was an American. And the Jews get their bulldozers, and their
weapons, and billions of dollars from America.

Americans should remove the Jews from controlling their country.

Liberating America From Israel

by Paul Findley

Nine-eleven would not have occurred if the U.S. government had refused
to
help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society. Few express
this
conclusion publicly, but many believe it is the truth. I believe the
catastrophe could have been prevented if any U.S. president during the
past
35 years had had the courage and wisdom to suspend all U.S. aid until
Israel
withdrew from the Arab land seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

The U.S. lobby for Israel is powerful and intimidating, but any
determined
president-even President Bush this very day-could prevail and win
overwhelming public support for the suspension of aid by laying these
facts
before the American people:

Israel's present government, like its predecessors, is determined to
annex
the West Bank-biblical Judea and Samaria - so Israel will become
Greater
Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who maintain a powerful role in Israeli
politics, believe the Jewish Messiah will not come until Greater
Israel is a
reality. Although a minority in Israel, they are committed,
aggressive, and
influential. Because of deep religious conviction, they are determined
to
prevent Palestinians from gaining statehood on any part of the West
Bank.

In its violent assaults on Palestinians, Israel uses the pretext of
eradicating terrorism, but its forces are actually engaged advancing
the
territorial expansion just cited. Under the guise of anti-terrorism,
Israeli
forces treat Palestinians worse than cattle. With due process nowhere
to be
found, hundreds are detained for long periods and most are tortured.
Some
are assassinated. Homes, orchards, and business places are destroyed.
Entire
cities are kept under intermittent curfew, some confinements lasting
for
weeks. Injured or ill Palestinians needing emergency medical care are
routinely held at checkpoints for an hour or more. Many children are
undernourished. The West Bank and Gaza have become giant concentration
camps. None of this could have occurred without U.S. support. Perhaps
Israeli officials believe life will become so unbearable that most
Palestinians will eventually leave their ancestral homes.

Once beloved worldwide, the U.S. government finds itself reviled in
most
countries because it provides unconditional support of Israeli
violations of
the United Nations Charter, international law, and the precepts of all
major
religious faiths.

How did the American people get into this fix?

Nine-eleven had its principal origin 35 years ago when Israel's U.S.
lobby
began its unbroken success in stifling debate about the proper U.S.
role in
the Arab-Israeli conflict and effectively concealed from public
awareness
the fact that the U.S. government gives massive uncritical support to
Israel.

Thanks to the suffocating influence of Israel's U.S. lobby, open
discussion
of the Arab-Israeli conflict has been non-existent in our government
all
these years. I have firsthand knowledge, because I was a member of the
House
of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee in June 1967 when Israeli
military forces took control of the Golan Heights, a part of Syria, as
well
as the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza. I continued as a member for 16
years
and to this day maintain a close watch on Congress.

For 35 years, not a word has been expressed in that committee or in
either
chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East
policy.
No restrictive or limiting amendments on aid to Israel have been
offered for
20 years, and none of the few offered in previous years received more
than a
handful of votes. On Capitol Hill, criticism of Israel, even in
private
conversation, is all but forbidden, treated as downright unpatriotic,
if not
anti-Semitic. The continued absence of free speech was assured when
those
few who spoke out-Senators Adlai Stevenson and Charles Percy, and
Reps. Paul
"Pete" McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl Hilliard, and myself-were
defeated
at the polls by candidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces.

As a result, legislation dealing with the Middle East has been heavily
biased in favor of Israel and against Palestinians and other Arabs
year
after year. Home constituencies, misled by news coverage equally
lop-sided
in Israel's favor, remain largely unaware that Congress behaves as if
it
were a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament.

However, the bias is widely noted beyond America, where most news
media
candidly cover Israel's conquest and generally excoriate America's
complicity and complacency. When President Bush welcomed Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon, sometimes called the Butcher of Beirut, as "my
dear
friend" and "a man of peace" after Israeli forces, using U.S.-donated
arms,
completed their devastation of the West Bank last spring, worldwide
anger
against American policy reached the boiling point.

The fury should surprise no one who reads foreign newspapers or
listens to
BBC. In several televised statements long before 9/11, Osama bin
Laden,
believed by U.S. authorities to have masterminded 9/11, cited U.S.
complicity in Israel's destruction of Palestinian society as a
principal
complaint. Prominent foreigners, in and out of government, express
their
opposition to U.S. policies with unprecedented frequency and severity,
especially since Bush announced his determination to make war against
Iraq.

The lobby's intimidation remains pervasive. It seems to reach every
government center and even houses of worship and revered institutions
of
higher learning. It is highly effective in silencing the many U.S.
Jews who
object to the lobby's tactics and Israel's brutality...

Today, a year after 9/11, President Bush has made no attempt to
redress
grievances, or even to identify them. In fact, he has made the scene
far
worse by supporting Israel's religious war against Palestinians, an
alliance
that has intensified anti-American anger. He seems oblivious to the
fact
that nearly two billion people worldwide regard the plight of
Palestinians
as today's most important foreign-policy challenge. No one in
authority will
admit a calamitous reality that is skillfully shielded from the
American
people but clearly recognized by most of the world: America suffered
9/11
and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because
U.S.
policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington.

Israel is a scofflaw nation and should be treated as such. Instead of
helping Sharon intensify Palestinian misery, our president should
suspend
all aid until Israel ends its occupation of Arab land Israel seized in
1967.
The suspension would force Sharon's compliance or lead to his removal
from
office, as the Israeli electorate will not tolerate a prime minister
who is
at odds with the White House.

If Bush needs an additional reason for doing the right thing, he can
justify
the suspension as a matter of military necessity, an essential step in
winning international support for his war on terrorism. He can cite a
worthy
precedent. When President Abraham Lincoln issued the proclamation that
freed
only the slaves in states that were then in rebellion, he make the
restriction because of "military necessity."

If Bush suspends U.S. aid, he will liberate all Americans from long
years of
bondage to Israel's misdeeds.

Mr. Paul Findley, who served as a Republican congressman from Illinois
for
22 years, is the author of 'They Dare to Speak Out' and a member of
the
American Educational Trust's Foreign Relations Committee.


Also See: http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/
Citizens for Fair Legislation ALERT: NO NEW AID TO ISRAEL
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1556560.php
Congressman Paul Findley: Liberating America From Israel
http://www.mediamonitors.net/findley2.html
Pat Buchanan: Why Politicians Prefer Israel over American
Interest?
http://amconmag.com/01_13_03/buchanan7.html

Israeli Minister - 'We've Become Barbarians'
http://rense.com/general33/become.htm
Wales Politician Compares Apartheid Israel to Nazi Germany
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100n...ectid=12498073
&method=full&siteid=50082
Israel's image of liberal democracy takes a battering
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...4/wisr04.xml&s
Sheet=/news/2003/01/04/ixworld.html
Israel Bans Christian Politician and Party from Election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1845530.stm
Israel to Expel Christian Politician and non-Jewish Parties from
Knesset
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...866348,00.html
Row over Arabs' election ban
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news...3/01/01/wisr01.
xml&sSheet=/news/2003/01/01/ixnewstop.html

How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.
http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/...14_comment.php
American Media Controlled by Israeli Supporters
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Er...en&lr=&ie=U T
F-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3caaa1d0_1%40news.tm.net.my&rnum=1
The Myth of Barak's Generous Offer
http://fair.org/extra/0207/generous.html
Direct Financial Cost of Israel to US: $1.6 trillion and
growing
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html
MAKING MERCHANDISE OUT OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD: SELLING THE UPCOMING
WAR IN
IRAQ http://www.endtimesnetwork.com/m2_s1.html

Zionism Unbound - Vidal Gored 16 Years Ago
http://www.rense.com/general32/unbound.htm
'It's Time To Get Tough With Israel' - Patriotic US Army Brig
General
http://www.rense.com/general33/tough.htm
Israel's Policy Of 'Covert Aggression'
http://www.rense.com/general31/ze.htm
ISRAEL'S SACRED TERRORISM
http://abbc.com/historia/zionism/rokach.html
The Men From JINSA and CSP
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i...902&c=1&s=vest
JINSA Behind Drive To Cover-Up Israeli Spy Scandal
http://rense.com/general18/JINSA.HTM

Christian Coalition Abandonment of Palestinian Christians is
Hypocritical http://www.mediamonitors.net/sherri64.html
Where does world-famous televangelist's money go?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/845747.asp#BODY
Christian Patriarch of Holy Land calls for end of Oppressive
Israeli
occupation http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2604761.stm
Zionism versus the Bible - Peace and Jutice on Earth or the
Extremism of
the 'Christian' Right? http://www.mediamonitors.net/williamson4.html
THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE - Christianity & The NWO
http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm
No Joy in Bethlehem
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/com...865083,00.html
'Saddest Christmas Ever' in Bethlehem
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/new...&st=newsmideas
tdc

For Unbiased News, visit:
http://www.commondreams.org
http://www.rense.com/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
http://www.independent.co.uk/
http://www.thenation.com/
http://www.mediamonitors.net/
http://www.antiwar.com/
http://www.fair.org/
http://www.counterpunch.com/
http://www.indymedia.org/
http://www.progressive.org/
http://www.yellowtimes.org/
http://www.latimes.com/

For Good Analysis and Commentary, visit:
http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/
http://www.robert-fisk.com/
http://www.iacenter.org/
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm
http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h-col.html
http://www.nader.org/public_interest.html
http://reese.king-online.com/
http://fair.org/media-beat/
http://avnery-news.co.il/english/

Please distribute....
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info/ www.nowarforisrael.com

jason a. kaatz

There are more weapons of mass destruction in the Arab world, enough to wipe
out the planet several times over and that could very well happen if placed
in the hands of terrorists. Israel is no threat to anyone. However, if
attacked with WMD it will respond accordingly and I feel sorry for whoever
attempts to wipe out the Israel.

The National Alliance is a racist neoNazi operation which spews the message
of hate in the U.S. and overseas. They are nothing more than a bunch of
psychotics bastards that belong in mental institutions if only to protect
themselves against each other. The anti-Semitic nature of the Alliance
raises some serious questions about the mentality of its leaders and the
doctrine of the revival of Nazism. They are part of the subculture of
America and the majority of Americans view them as being a bunch sadistic
collection of human garbage that is dedicated to attacks of minorities with
emphasis. It is a racist operation that has become part of the American and
European subculture who for the most part end up in mental institutions for
the criminally insane and or prison.
-------------------

neptune3

The Jews should be wiped out.

"I will quote to you from the most popular web site in all of Israel.
It is
called Gamla News and Views. It is a very extensive site in both
English and
Hebrew. You can check it out for yourself. It was instrumental in the
1996
elections in Israel, which brought the Likud and Netanyahu to power.
It has
articles in Hebrew and English. Usually, articles in all Hebrew
newspapers
are far more vehement against Gentiles than those they translate into
English. But, the following article appears on their site and is
written by
their most popular commentator Emanuel Winston, and it is in English.
You
can go to Gamla and read this entire article for yourself.

"Winston Mideast Analysis & Commentary: The Crack of the Whip", in
Gamla,
News & Views (www.gamla.org.il), September 16, 1998.

http://www.gamla.org.il/english/arti.../sept/win3.htm

Here's what this popular Jewish supremacist has to say about Europeans
and
it should be made clear that the author makes clear that what he calls
Europeans are those of European descent, including Americans. Quote:

"As any prostitute can tell you, for a fee they will agree to do
anything
you want. The Europeans are really a low, immoral people who would
sell
their mother... and then deliver.

".How easily any sense of humanity of civilization slips away from
their
face, leaving only the beast. This beast has many faces and names.
Sometimes
they are called Germans, Poles, Croatians, Ukrainians... While at
other
times they became the Church, the Red Cross, or Prime Ministers,
Kings,
Fuhrer. Then, in a quick change, we see some Americans, French,
English and,
finally, there is the contaminated Jew called the Leftist. It doesn't
really
matter, this name or that. Underneath there is strand, a bond that
society
teaches children to hate the "other" - the different ones."

Here is this obscenely hateful Jew calling Europeans prostitutes and
beasts
and then in the height of hypocrisy saying that Europeans teach
children to
hate the "other", the different ones, which, of course, he means to be
Jews.
The truth is that the very core of Judaism teaches hatred of Gentiles.

Then Winston goes on to cheer the genocide of the European people.
Quote:

"These are people of ultimate evil as the beast stays just below the
surface, ready to savage, ready to kill the Jew. The planet would be
well
rid of the European predator. Perhaps we will be fortunate to live in
such
interesting times (an old Chinese curse), to see the decline and
disappearance of the graveyard called Europe. The Europeans, the
English and
the American Arabists once again come together and crack the whip over
the
Jews."

Now, again, let me repeat, this is the top web site in Israel,
supported by
major Jewish political figures such as Benjamin Netanyahu. He calls
for the
ridding of the planet of the European people. The article is nothing
less
than a call for genocide.

Imagine for a minute if any major person in American called Jews
prostitutes
and beasts and said, quote:

"The planet would be well rid of the Jewish predator. Perhaps we will
be
fortunate to live in such interesting times, to see the decline and
disappearance of the graveyard called the Jewish people and Israel."

Could you imagine the outcry if any Christian made such a statement
about
Jews? In most countries of Europe they would be placed in jail. Even
American activists who have simply criticized Jews much more mildly
have
been put in jail, when they have touched down on European soil, such
as in
Germany. Do you think Mr. Emanuel Winston faces that possibility?
Don't hold
your breath.

And, in this very article, this paranoid Jewish supremacist accuses
the very
same nations who have unconditionally supported Israel and all of its
evil,
as hating Jews! As he calls us beasts and prostitutes and wishes for
our
genocide, he then says that WE are the ones hateful.

That is 14-carat Jewish supremacist hypocrisy and the western world is
filled with it.

If you don't believe what you have just heard, please go to the Gamla
site
in Israel and read Winston's article for yourself!

Of course, Jewish supremacists such as Winston are already working for
the
demise of Europeans just as they have worked for the destruction of
the
Palestinians. Jewish supremacists in every nation of Europe and in
America
have relentlessly led the effort to open the borders and make
Europeans a
small minority in our own nations. This is at the same time they make
immigration to Israel dependent on race. They have consciously led the
effort to wipe out our heritage and culture and even existence. They
are the
ultimate racial supremacists, the ultimate haters and, of course, the
ultimate hypocrites.

And they have the Chutzpah to make the false claim that I am a White
supremacist. In truth, I don't want to be supreme over any other
people; I
am not a supremacist: I am really just a preservationist: I just want
my
heritage and traditions to continue in our own European and American
homelands. Whereas Jewish supremacists fulfill the true definition of
supremacism, that is to be supreme over other peoples. Jewish
Supremacists
want control over every land, every government, every media. They want
total
Supremacy. They are the real supremacists, and they are the real
haters, and
they are the ultimate hypocrites!

And we must, if we love freedom, if we love our heritage, oppose them
with
every ounce of our being, even with our very lives. The time is now.

This has been David Duke sharing my latest thoughts."

Listen online now at http://www.davidduke.com/radio

The Jews say it is fine to consider a country an enemy. People can
think
Iraq is their enemy and no one says that is outrageous. They may argue
whether Iraq is really an enemy or not, but they don't just dismiss
the idea of enemies out of hand.

Then the Jews say that it is not OK to be against a group that is
not
a country, such as the Jews. Jews say only countries can be enemies
and we
should never fight our real enemies, who are the Jews themselves.

A Jew said the French were "cheese eating surrender monkeys". Why
can't the
French howl "anti-French" like the Jews howl "anti-Semite"? Because
the French don't
control the media, Jews do.

"[Non-Jews] have to realize that the Jews in the U.S. control the
entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers, the
motion pictures, radio and television, and the big companies. And
there is a force that we have to take into consideration."
--U.S. President Richard Nixon, as noted in the book Anti-Semitism in
America by Leonard Dinnerstein, pp. 232-233


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horvath

Do you wear your white sheet and hood when you post?


Hero@Horvath.net

Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

darkmatter

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:44:49 -0500, neptune3 <nptn3@hotmail.com> Gave
us:

Actually, it is you that should be "wiped out".

Wiped out of the toilet bowl you exist in, and pitched into an
incinerator.