-whitewolf(ray)

****ysis: Transparent Reminders
By Danny Morrison
http://www.dannymorrison.com


The two ****agers, Gavin and Michael, stood talking at the
road junction on a late Sunday night in July, near the
entrance to a GAA club. Gavin, a tall, handsome lad of
eigh****, a Man United supporter, had just finished high
school and was looking forward to his A-Level results. Michael
noticed a blue Vauxhall Nova driving towards them. The rear
window behind the driver's seat was rolled down and suddenly
shots rang out. Gavin fell to the ground and Michael was shot
in the foot as he tried to scale a fence.

The unionist gunmen laughed as they drove away, believing they
had shot two Catholic kids. Gavin's father, Michael Brett, was
called to the scene of the shooting, not far from his home,
and tried desperately, but in vain, to save the life of his
son whom he later described as "my mate, my chum." Catholics
and Protestants attended the funeral of Gavin Brett at the
Church of the Holy Evangelists. The Reverend Nigel Baylor
addressing the congregation said:

"These men who murdered Gavin were Protestants, loyalists and
they killed one of their own, thinking that he was a Roman
Catholic... They have done nothing but bring shame on the name
of Protestantism. They represent the evil wasteful past which
is dead and useless to us all."

This shooting happened just two years ago.

The Red Hand Defenders - that is the UDA/UFF - claimed
responsibility. No one was ever charged. The guns were never
seized. They have yet to be 'put beyond use'. The UDA/UFF and
UVF are still active, are still engaged in violence and
gunrunning and refuse to decommission. Those organisations sit
on the Loyalist Commission, an umbrella group that includes
Protestant church leaders and politicians, including leading
Ulster Unionist David McNarry.

Last week the UDA threatened two of its former allies, David
Adams and Gary McMichael, who are pro-Agreement. When the
Commission tried to intervene the UDA told it to mind its own
business - this was an internal matter. Did Mr McNarry resign
from the Commission, or suspend his membership even
temporarily, as some sort of leverage?

Sure didn't.

Last Tuesday General de Chastelain announced that the IRA had
carried out a third act of decommissioning in significantly
larger numbers than on the two previous occasions.

An hour later David Trimble reneged on a deal he had entered
into with Gerry Adams. It didn't matter that the IRA had put
beyond use a record large number of weapons. The unionist
community, Trimble said, was not satisfied and had to see or
hear for itself the exact details of all the weapons and
explosives that the IRA had destroyed.

Frustrating though it is, we need to keep challenging unionist
hypocrisy and double standards, though in the mean time we
have to live with the unionist parties' equivocal attitudes to
loyalist paramilitarism. One can expect nothing from the DUP,
with its history of jointly organising the 1977 strike with
the UDA, to marching up mountains in the dead of night waving
gun licences and barking at the moon, or the not-so-Big Man in
his wee red beret taking military salutes in the Ulster Hall.

Last Tuesday his answer - for the thousandth time - was to
promise to smash Sinn Fein/IRA. How pathetic.

Without mature and responsible leadership the interests of the
unionist people will suffer: without, of course, necessarily
advancing the cause of republicanism. Unionism totally
divided, and large numbers in despair, is dangerous. However,
the leader of mainstream unionism, David Trimble, hadn't the
courage to face down his dissidents and the DUP and recognise
the magnitude of what the IRA did. Instead, he passed over the
opportunity for the elections to be held in a positive and
optimistic atmosphere, in favour of presenting himself as a
hard man. And now he expects the IRA to bail him out, or,
failing that, to provide him with a pretext for refusing to
share power with Sinn Fein.

Of all the armed organisations in the North the IRA is the
only group that has publicly committed itself to putting its
arms and explosives 'completely and verifiably' beyond use.
The now-abused General John de Chastelain, the British nominee
to the decommissioning body most favoured by unionists, has
witnessed its actions.

Finally, as David Trimble was reneging on his agreement with
Gerry Adams last Tuesday, ten miles away in Belfast the
inquest into the murder of young Gavin Brett on that summer's
night in July 2001 was being held. Such inquests, along with
the weekly statistics of sectarian attacks, transparently
remind us that the chief ongoing source of violence is from
within the unionist community.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to
have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
Email: ray-AT-eirefirst.com
Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

-whitewolf(ray)

****ysis: Transparent Reminders
By Danny Morrison
http://www.dannymorrison.com


The two ****agers, Gavin and Michael, stood talking at the
road junction on a late Sunday night in July, near the
entrance to a GAA club. Gavin, a tall, handsome lad of
eigh****, a Man United supporter, had just finished high
school and was looking forward to his A-Level results. Michael
noticed a blue Vauxhall Nova driving towards them. The rear
window behind the driver's seat was rolled down and suddenly
shots rang out. Gavin fell to the ground and Michael was shot
in the foot as he tried to scale a fence.

The unionist gunmen laughed as they drove away, believing they
had shot two Catholic kids. Gavin's father, Michael Brett, was
called to the scene of the shooting, not far from his home,
and tried desperately, but in vain, to save the life of his
son whom he later described as "my mate, my chum." Catholics
and Protestants attended the funeral of Gavin Brett at the
Church of the Holy Evangelists. The Reverend Nigel Baylor
addressing the congregation said:

"These men who murdered Gavin were Protestants, loyalists and
they killed one of their own, thinking that he was a Roman
Catholic... They have done nothing but bring shame on the name
of Protestantism. They represent the evil wasteful past which
is dead and useless to us all."

This shooting happened just two years ago.

The Red Hand Defenders - that is the UDA/UFF - claimed
responsibility. No one was ever charged. The guns were never
seized. They have yet to be 'put beyond use'. The UDA/UFF and
UVF are still active, are still engaged in violence and
gunrunning and refuse to decommission. Those organisations sit
on the Loyalist Commission, an umbrella group that includes
Protestant church leaders and politicians, including leading
Ulster Unionist David McNarry.

Last week the UDA threatened two of its former allies, David
Adams and Gary McMichael, who are pro-Agreement. When the
Commission tried to intervene the UDA told it to mind its own
business - this was an internal matter. Did Mr McNarry resign
from the Commission, or suspend his membership even
temporarily, as some sort of leverage?

Sure didn't.

Last Tuesday General de Chastelain announced that the IRA had
carried out a third act of decommissioning in significantly
larger numbers than on the two previous occasions.

An hour later David Trimble reneged on a deal he had entered
into with Gerry Adams. It didn't matter that the IRA had put
beyond use a record large number of weapons. The unionist
community, Trimble said, was not satisfied and had to see or
hear for itself the exact details of all the weapons and
explosives that the IRA had destroyed.

Frustrating though it is, we need to keep challenging unionist
hypocrisy and double standards, though in the mean time we
have to live with the unionist parties' equivocal attitudes to
loyalist paramilitarism. One can expect nothing from the DUP,
with its history of jointly organising the 1977 strike with
the UDA, to marching up mountains in the dead of night waving
gun licences and barking at the moon, or the not-so-Big Man in
his wee red beret taking military salutes in the Ulster Hall.

Last Tuesday his answer - for the thousandth time - was to
promise to smash Sinn Fein/IRA. How pathetic.

Without mature and responsible leadership the interests of the
unionist people will suffer: without, of course, necessarily
advancing the cause of republicanism. Unionism totally
divided, and large numbers in despair, is dangerous. However,
the leader of mainstream unionism, David Trimble, hadn't the
courage to face down his dissidents and the DUP and recognise
the magnitude of what the IRA did. Instead, he passed over the
opportunity for the elections to be held in a positive and
optimistic atmosphere, in favour of presenting himself as a
hard man. And now he expects the IRA to bail him out, or,
failing that, to provide him with a pretext for refusing to
share power with Sinn Fein.

Of all the armed organisations in the North the IRA is the
only group that has publicly committed itself to putting its
arms and explosives 'completely and verifiably' beyond use.
The now-abused General John de Chastelain, the British nominee
to the decommissioning body most favoured by unionists, has
witnessed its actions.

Finally, as David Trimble was reneging on his agreement with
Gerry Adams last Tuesday, ten miles away in Belfast the
inquest into the murder of young Gavin Brett on that summer's
night in July 2001 was being held. Such inquests, along with
the weekly statistics of sectarian attacks, transparently
remind us that the chief ongoing source of violence is from
within the unionist community.

--

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to
have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
Email: ray-AT-eirefirst.com
Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

hmhawktoo

This is exactly what I have always been saying. This is what this ex Sinn
Fein man is saying. Why oh why then do we have to continue on with this
contradictory babble :-

though in the mean time we

NO WE DON'T!! Unionism has highlighted to the world the violence and
problems associated with IRA violence. A VIOLENCE WHICH THE IRISH PEOPLE
HAVE COMPLETELY ROUNDED UPON! There is NO reason whatsoever why the Irish
should tolerate it with unionism yet it does! That is even true with Sinn
Fein and, as I have regularly said, is NO foundation for a stable future.
The Irish ALSO have vetoes which, like it's unionist counterpart, can be
used to full effect. The Irish MUST stop bending the knee to unionism - ALL
of us!

Unionism isn't divided. At least 75% of unionism is against the "agreement"
and, in the absence of DECENT Irish leadership, it is this 1690 rump that
provides the ONLY hope we have of true democracy.

However,

What tripe! Trimble is a unionist and is serving the 1690 rump EXTREMELY
well even though they haven't the wit to see it. He wants to continue and
did as he did to that end.

And yet Danny Morrison bleats here about unionist arms and violence. What
the HELL does he expect from a regime to which the Irish continue to bend
the knee and leave completely unchallenged in any credible way? The IRISH
must address their own house in these matters.


Yeah - what a scoop. And the Irish MUST carry some of the blame for this
because of their incoherent, incohesive and frankly STUPID approach to a
corrupt regime. That includes all of us, Sinn Fein as well.

hmhawktoo

This is exactly what I have always been saying. This is what this ex Sinn
Fein man is saying. Why oh why then do we have to continue on with this
contradictory babble :-

though in the mean time we

NO WE DON'T!! Unionism has highlighted to the world the violence and
problems associated with IRA violence. A VIOLENCE WHICH THE IRISH PEOPLE
HAVE COMPLETELY ROUNDED UPON! There is NO reason whatsoever why the Irish
should tolerate it with unionism yet it does! That is even true with Sinn
Fein and, as I have regularly said, is NO foundation for a stable future.
The Irish ALSO have vetoes which, like it's unionist counterpart, can be
used to full effect. The Irish MUST stop bending the knee to unionism - ALL
of us!

Unionism isn't divided. At least 75% of unionism is against the "agreement"
and, in the absence of DECENT Irish leadership, it is this 1690 rump that
provides the ONLY hope we have of true democracy.

However,

What tripe! Trimble is a unionist and is serving the 1690 rump EXTREMELY
well even though they haven't the wit to see it. He wants to continue and
did as he did to that end.

And yet Danny Morrison bleats here about unionist arms and violence. What
the HELL does he expect from a regime to which the Irish continue to bend
the knee and leave completely unchallenged in any credible way? The IRISH
must address their own house in these matters.


Yeah - what a scoop. And the Irish MUST carry some of the blame for this
because of their incoherent, incohesive and frankly STUPID approach to a
corrupt regime. That includes all of us, Sinn Fein as well.

max

hmhawktoo <NOSPAM@lycos.com>


You are nuts, quite lost in the wind.
Most of us are happy enough, in comparison to
other areas of IR or UK.
You are correct about the arms, there should be no arms at all, although
the use of arms by the security forces should reflect the risk, unless you support the
dissident republicans.

As far as Tremble and the rump go, they have to deal, and there are many many areas in
that deal that need attention, not only from the unionists but from the republicans also.

If you can't see how far NI has come then you don't know a thing.

30 years, at least

max.it (the orange cage )

westprog

It's bizarre to pretend that the situation hasn't improved for most people.
The hatred and bigotry are as extreme as ever - maybe worse than before -
but the violence has settled down enormously. The idea that things would
be
improved by Paisley getting into power is ridiculous. There isn't going to
be some Ragnarok of Northern Ireland, followed by a rapture where the good
people are assimilated into a unitary state, and the bad people flee to
Scotland. There is going to be a settlement of some kind, eventually, which
involves nationalists remaining nationalists and unionists remaining
unionists. That's the only possible basis.

C/

SOTW: "Knight Moves" - Suzanne Vega

3RD IRISH SF NEWS TABLE QUIZ:

What: The Third Irish SF News Table Quiz
Where: Back Bar, Exchequer Bar, Exchequer Street, Dublin 2
When: Thursday the 13th of November 2003 at 8 PM
How Much: E24 for teams of 4

nik

<cut>


What would, according to you, be an intelligent and practical response
to the Unionists?

How is it that Sinn Fein aren't being the most pragmatic organisation
in opposition to the Unionists?

Nik

hmhawktoo

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. That's how the
scientific reasoning goes and I think it highly appropriate in our
cir***stances. Unfortunately, Sinn Fein are left carrying the can since
they can expect no support from the SDLP/Irish. But that doesn't diminish
the responsibilty. Let's take *one* simple irrefutable fact. Trimble is a
high ranking member of an institution which has an inordinate and arguably
sinister role in politics here. This institution *bars* catholic yet not
their killers. Trimble walks with psychopaths.

I'm not even talking about his role in getting psychopaths, not on
ceasefire, into office. Let's just concentrate on this one thing. Trimble
wants transparency and trust with the IRA? The Irish want transparency and
trust from Trimble! We want to know *exactly* what he is doing about the
removal of the bar on Catholics (after all they tell us it *is* only a
religious ceremony) and we want to know what the plans are or what he has
done to have unreconstructed, not on ceasefire, psychopathic killers
removed from their ranks. That's just a starter and quite a simple one -
and *very* much pragmatic for Irish citizens living here in the north east.

I don't doubt Sinn Fein's sincerity as being an opposing force to
unionists. And I don't blame Sinn Fein solely. As I've said before this is
a matter for ALL Irish people. But what Sinn Fein are *not* doing is
opposing unionISM. It is bartering away the democratic rights of Irish
people in the idiotic belief that unionism will reciprocate. What is the
reciprocation? A place for Sinn Fein in Stormont. IN SPITE of the so called
human rights "agenda", children - BABIES - had bombs thrown at them going
to school. Grave ceremonies are a topic for fundamentalist foaming. Human
rights officials are resigning. Daily terror of Irish people is accepted. I
could go on as you very well know. And yet Sinn Fein still trod the road of
appeasing in the *face* fo continued unionist violence and discrimination.
They have to stop - the Irish have to stop - the Irish have to look clearly
and see what they are doing to future generations.

hmhawktoo

You see here we go again. WHAT violence has settled down enormously? Tell
me - do you think that the Irish here feel *one* bit more secure than they
did before? Look at Ray's posts on what has happened just over the last two
days. Do you think for *one* second that if had been an IRA attack on a
pensioner that it would not have been blasted worldwide over the news
networks? The Irish have SETTLED for this type of inhuman fundamentalist
attacks on their people and actually *believe*, since it isn't happening to
them personally, things are better. They are NOT and to say otherwise is
self delusion! These poor people in isolated areas, Short Strand, Ardoyne
and many many others DESERVE our support. Were they unionists they would
*certainly* have it from unionism! The idea

Of course that's true and that isn't what I meant to convey. Look - after
the terrorising of those children the sick bastards who "protested" were
interviewed on television. A teacher - A TEACHER NO LESS - preached her
right to do as she did AND told us all that she was PROUD TO BE A BIGOT!
THAT is unionism and Trimble is only it's respectable cover - and only so
because news management is so well entrenched that Irish suffering is
somehow transformed into unionist "rights". Sinn Fein isn't doing it. I
believe they are inept. The SDLP *will* not do it as can be said for our
own government and that of the British. The Irish people aren't doing it
given the leadership they are getting from same. What I am saying is that
with the vestige of respectabilty given to unionism by Trimble. Paisley's
mob will hopefully strip that away and lay unionism at it's barest. Then
maybe there is hope that news management can't cut it anymore and the world
will see the corruption that is unionism.

There isn't


Precisely. But this is *not* the route we are taking now. That route
insists that unionism is lily white and everything including the rain is
the fault of the IRA and Sinn Fein. Unionist discrimination and violence
continues unfettered and might even be a policy. Do you think that some
kids knocking about up here don't see that? Do you think that someday they
won't say enough's enough - again? Do you think that they won't see the
armalite being the ONLY reaction to unionsim's excesses? What we're
following is a recipe for disaster. Look at Keith's five "facts". He
doesn't strike me as someone who will reach for the machine gun or bomb.
He's just a unionist - and *believes* the drivel he comes off with. That's
unionism. And the Irish are SO wrong in allowing this to continue!

falcon

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Why does that make it a pragmatic request?
A rather ironic request though, which incidentally, comes on the day when
Martin McGuinness has publicly acknowledged what, until recently, everyone
knew, but he had always vehemently denied. I agree with you Hawkeye,
psychopathic killers have no place in Northern Irish politics: no place at
all.

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fide, sed cui vide. (L)
"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."

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