james cameron

Would that be the British colonial occupation of Northern Ireland that
raised two divisions from the "indigenous" population while only
raising one division from the "occupying" population that was twice
the size?

I'm talking about during the second world war when there was no
conscription in Northern Ireland, yet the "indigenous" population
still flocked to fight for the Union Flag (you'll know it better as
the Butcher's Apron).

Many of the "indigenous" Irish of the South also moved northward to
join the "occupation" forces and formed the fourth division from
Ireland. Four divisions, every man a volunteer, and three of those
divisions were "indigenous". It was an "indigenous" Irishman from
Northern Ireland who was first to win a Victoria Cross.

Then we should consider the many Irishmen who, unfit for the British
Forces, moved to Northern Ireland, Scotland and England to face the
bombing while working for the British war effort. It couldn't have
been the money that brought them, for the Germans offered almost three
times the pay. Let's not forget the "indigenous" Irishwomen who
couldn't get to Britain fast enough to risk their lives as nurses in
hospitals in the centre of bomb-blasted, British cities. They weren't
doing that for the money either.

I'll finish by reminding you that, when a certain "Irish" politician
offered his condolences to the German Ambassador on the occasion of
Hitler's death, it was "indigenous" Irishmen and Irishwomen that
cleared their throats so well outside his house that he had to wade
through a sea of Irish spit to get home.

You, Logan, are a disgrace to Ireland.

nik

The soldier was dying...he was no further threat to Ireland or Irish
people. A bit of compassion on a basic human level can be shown, I
believe.

Nik

ken heslin

Did a state of Martial Law exist at the time of Bloody Sunday?
Please do not misinterpret this.


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harry merrick

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The indiginous, sic., "IRISH" population also includes a majority of
Protestants. Catholics are now, and were then, a definite minority. Also,
your facts are out the window in that NOBODY was domiated by anyone else.
The British Army was sent on instruction from Westminster to defend the
Catholics against the Loyalists. The Catholics then allowed themselves to be
persuaded by Republican propaganda lies to turn against their protectors and
tried to poison individual soldiers with cups of tea laced with broken
glass!! Just going to prove for the millionth time that Republicans cannot
be trusted under aby cir***stances.

while the marchers were merely seeking equal


Bullshit, as per usual!


You are a total and complete twat Diarmid! - Since when has the IRA/PIRA
ever shown compassion to anybody at all, let alone the British Army.
Fortunately, your opinions are SO Fascist and far out that you merely
represent a tiny minority so your views don't count and are completely
irrelevant. Why are you still talking vindictively about Bloody Sunday for
God's sake? What about Bloody Friday? - You are such a vengeful, arrogant,
begrudging, sectarian and bigoted, NASTY little man! - A great shame really
that you represent so many Republicans of similar ilk.


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Harry Merrick

alan hardie

No. It did not. Though the Civil Rights March had been declared
"illegal" by the Government of Northern Ireland.

The marchers were shot down and shouldn't have been.

The big question is whether the British troops were fired at *before*
they themselves opened fire. It's virtually impossible to say for
certain - but I suspect somebody did pop off a shot or two at them.
They then proceeded to behave abominably. IMHO.

diarmid logan

I don't know if the British ever used the term "Martial Law" when
referring to their activities in the Six Counties of the north of
Ireland.


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bryn fraser

In message <mofclvsgtmavg0uc0rqkuquf87hggbevfr@4ax.com>, Alan Hardie
<axhardie@clara.co.uk> writes

If a non-army shot was fired it was not heard at the place where the
shootings occurred.

That is to say that first the civil rights people knew of the situation
was when they heard people yelling that they had been shot.

Then the army started picking civilians off.


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Bryn Fraser

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http://www.finhall.demon.co.uk http://www.thefrasers.com

diarmid logan

Actually, the indigenous Irish Catholic population of the Six Counties
enjoys few rights which was why the Provisional IRA was necessary in the
first place.


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alan hardie

You "don't know" because you "don't know" anything about anything. You
are ignorant of the events. You are not who you say you are. You are a
fantasist.

bogman

If they are like you do they deserve any rights?:
:
: Actually, the indigenous Irish Catholic population of the Six Counties
: enjoys few rights which was why the Provisional IRA was necessary in the
: first place.
:
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