scottish

Unlike the USA, the UK has an Independant press with diverse viewpoints.

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scottish

Unlike the USA, the UK has an Independant press with diverse viewpoints.

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diarmidlogan@yahoo.com (diarmid

Actually I have no problem with the referendum on SCI. I am just
amazed that I have become such a major part of so many peoples' Usenet
lives that they are now having referenda about me.

dave

And how do you work that one out ?

(excluding of course anyone with dual nationality)

steve

Whatever will you do if the 'colonists', when asked by the repatriation
committee if they are Unionist, state: "Oh no, definiteley not. We're
Nationalist, always have been, we've wanted an independent Ireland for
ages".

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Steve

féachadóir

Scríobh swelter@btinternet.com (David H):

Probably. Adams in Ireland is usually of English or Scottish origin.

In the south, it may be Norman, as some Barry's of Cork adopted the
patronymic Mac Adaim at one stage.

Scottish Mac Ádhaimh (MacAdam) in Ulster can predate predate the
plantations. Remember there were population movements back and forth
for centuries.

The name may also be Gaelic, a corruption of Mac Cadain in Armagh.

Assuming any one ancestry over the others is a leap of faith for
Logan.

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"Ferr fíor fertaib"
Féachadóir

diarmidlogan@yahoo.com (diarmid

As long as they support an united Ireland free of British rule then I
have no problem with them staying. The ones that I have a problem with
are the ones that want to see British rule maintained in the Six
Counties.

swelter@btinternet.com (david

On 16 Jul 2003 06:42:28 -0700, diarmidlogan@yahoo.com (Diarmid Logan)

Numbers Diarmid? Where are they? I posted references to
three articles on ancestry and inter-marriage - each of them
quoting rates of intermarriage, an trying to describe the factors
influencing them. One of them mentioned the reduced rates
of intermarriage in very small rural communities - which is just
about the only thing covered by your quotes.

But where are the numbers?

Ah - you left them out:

(3.5) Rose (1971) found that only 5% of marriages crossed the communal
divide; 10 years later, Moxon-Browne (1983) found the proportion to be
the same, and the figure in the current survey is only slightly less
(4%).

So let's take the lowest estimate in your favoured source - 4%.
That assumes all of your ancestors lived in small rural communities.
So, in the 16 generations since the plantation, there would have
been 131071/25 = 5000 mixed marriages in your ancestry. So
that means only 5000 'colonists' and 5000 'traitors' instead of the
8000 each that I suggested before.

I love this science stuff. I wish it had paid better...

David H

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allan connochie

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These polls apart from election and referendum results are the best thing we
have though apart from individual poster's personal opinions. What are the
results then? 94.39% of people who voted in the referendum in the Irish
Republic backed the peace process, and 71.12% of people in the north did
too. So there we have the vast majority of people in the island as a whole
backing a process which clearly states that whether there is a united
Ireland or not depends on the democratic will of all the people in Northern
Ireland. It seems that most people's main wish is to live normal peaceful
lives. Though of course there are bigots and extremists on both sides who
wish to keep things enflamed. Your bigoted and crackpot ideas that people,
whom you claim to be colonists even though they have been in the country for
400 years or so, should be kicked out if they don't conform to your personal
wishes, is plainly evil. Any resonable person will recognise this.


Allan

murchadh

On 16 Jul 2003 07:01:49 -0700, diarmidlogan@yahoo.com (Diarmid Logan)

As long as Unionists and Nationalists support a united Ireland under
British rule then I have no problem with the native Irish staying. The
ones that I have a problem with are the ones that want to see Irish
rule maintained throughout Ireland.


Murchadh