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1 12th September 16:23
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2 13th September 03:22
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This is a bad thing? Had he run as a Republican, most Democratic support
would have been because he was black. Pish poor reason to support a
candidate.

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3 14th September 00:32
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ONCE, jokes mentioning ducks were considered particularly funny. JHall.
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4 14th September 21:58
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14 defining characteristics of fascism
i don't know if this has already been mentioned,
but here... sound familiar?
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1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist
regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic
mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other
paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as
are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because
of fear of enemies and the need for security, the
people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human
rights can be ignored in certain cases because of
"need." The people tend to look the other way or
even approve of torture, summary executions,
assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying
Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying
patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a
perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic
or religious minorities; liberals; communists;
socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are
widespread domestic problems, the military is
given a disproportionate amount of government
funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected.
Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant ***ism - The governments of fascist
nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated.
Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are
made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homo***uality
are suppressed and the state is represented as the
ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly
controlled by the government, but in other cases, the
media is indirectly controlled by government regulation,
or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives.
Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a
motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments
in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion
in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion.
Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from
government leaders, even when the major tenets of
the religion are diametrically opposed to the
government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and
business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are
the ones who put the government leaders into power,
creating a mutually beneficial business/government
relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing
power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist
government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely,
or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist
nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility
to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon
for professors and other academics to be censored or
even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters
is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist
regimes, the police are given almost limitless power
to enforce laws. The people are often willing to
overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties
in the name of patriotism. There is often a national
police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist
nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes
almost always are governed by groups of friends and
associates who appoint each other to government
positions and use governmental power and authority
to protect their friends from accountability. It is
not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources
and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright
stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist
nations are a complete sham. Other times elections
are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even
assassination of opposition candidates, use of
legislation to control voting numbers or political
district boundaries, and manipulation of the media.
Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries
to manipulate or control elections.

for more information: http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

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5 15th September 09:06
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<YAWN> everything you wrote could be wrote of the Old Soviet Union or
Communist North Korea or China... Just change a few word and you have the
14 characteristics of Communism/Socialism...

Ray

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6 15th September 19:34
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I would agree with you - which was my point - but there are some that see
Fascism as the great arch evil but are completely blind when they see the
same characteristics in their beloved Communist or Socialist "ideals."

Or elected reprepresentatives of the people.. The people get the government they deserve...

You could apply them to many leaders, but watch, as our socialist friends
manage to find only conservative/Republican leaders to pin their "bad guy"
badges on...

Ray
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7 15th September 19:34
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They're soldiers, they understand the risk... It's not like you join the
military and expect no confrontation... silly...

Ray

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8 16th September 06:29
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And its happening right here in America.

But people like you are too stupid to see it happen right before your eyes.

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9 16th September 14:19
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[snip the four**** defining characteristics]

I an very skeptical indeed of any attempt to define fascism (or
indeed any social movement). Fascism cannot be reduced to a few
simple characteristics, but must be understood in its historical
development in twentieth century Europe and its various
subsequent transformations.

In any case, the four**** characteristics presented are not
confined, individually or collectively, to the various fascist
movements which have existed or which exist now. In fact, they
could be argued to apply to several recent or current regimes
which can hardly be described as fascist. In this respect, it is
interesting to note the stampede of Gaderine swine who, reacting
to the narcotic mix of the inane definition and their own
predjudices, have swept over the cliff of reaction, and recorded
their nonsensical views in gory profusion.

I couldn't put my hand immediately on a book dealing succinctly
with the fascist movement, so I did a quick internet search. Have
a look at the following web site and its links to get an idea on
how to approach an understanding of the phenomenon:
http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html .

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must know to be able to do, but we must feel to know what to do".
(Christopher Caudwell: "Illusion and Reality"; 1937).
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10 16th September 14:19
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I'm sorry. The un-covering of one mass grave in what is
supposedly is muslim territory, un-does any idea of this being a
western political objective.

It is a UNIVERSAL crime against humanity that is being
exposed.....

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