hmhawktoo

Then what the hell is this about then :-

"How many murders by loyalists since the GFA? How many by
republicans? How many by the IRA? That's what counts."

I'm claiming that overall violence has gone


You're dead bloody right I am! Daily intimidation and terrorising of
innocents. Kids bombed, shit thrown at them. Graveside ceremonies subject
to "protests". Ah I could go on and on.

That the IRA are doing


Oh the "stats". And only up to 2001. *sigh* Oh well if the stats don't show
it we'll just have to ignore what we hear about nightly and daily. Not in
the stats, they didn't happen.

Here we go again. Four suspensions. Some poor bloke in jail on the
flimsiest of evidence whilst psychopaths found with guns get bail.
Orangemen get a ticking off for Drumcree whilst forced "searches" go on for
evidence into the Castlereagh "spy ring". The UVF murder and Davy (poet)
Ervine continues on the election campaign (of course having made the usual
"condemnation"). Not a word said about it even though they have publically
stated they are on ceasefire. Ah it's sick - and so is any vestige of
credibility given to it.


even if the UDA is currently more
active.

"It's Hawk who's claiming that the violence from the loyalists is on a
completely different scale to that from republicans."

I'm getting tired now. That's what unionism does. Wears people down. But
this is what the Irish need to do. Challenge them on every point. They
*don't* have a solid foundation and *need* to face up to what they have
done, believe and perpetuate. Otherwise this island will never see peace.


Oh well. We needn't bother with them then.

Here we go again. PSNI and Londonderry. Better now Westy?

I think I'll go with Westprick for now.


didn't you claim that the loyalists were paid up stooges of the


Yeah. The links have been evidenced and documented pretty well. God this is
boring.


hence when the loyalists are shooting each other, is it not at

No. They do that all by themselves being the "brilliant guerilla army" they
are. The british establishment just uses them when needed. They're just
dolts - "brilliant" though they are.


No better sentence to end on. None better at all.

nik

That, is incontrovertible evidence of the bias in the British Justice
system...even that example of journalistic virtue, the BBC, tried to
deny Sinn Fein their just TV time...when the BBC is behaving like
that...who else is also but is covering it up so bigotry doesn't look like bigotry...

Westie, can you tell me that you honestly believe that the IRA walked
into Castlereagh PSNI Special Branch HQ, spent 90 minutes in there,
beat up a PSNI officer, all the while speaking in English accents,
knowing exactly where the relevant files were all the while unmasked
and then simply walked out of there unmolested?

Can you tell me that, with a straight face?

Are they? Who by? When? Where?


If enough of them die by the bullets of other loyalist paramilitaries
then eventually it will....

The Stevens Report. You can download it from here:

http://www.sinnfeindsc.com

Nik

westprog

I haven't said anything about it. I don't know what happened, so I restrain
my comments.

But since Nik has joined the discussion - can you tell me that the IRA are
not engaged
in any illegal activities, such as punishment beatings, at present? Even
while
giggling behind your hand.

It's then a matter of an acceptable level of violence. IMO permitting the
IRA to carry
out punishment beatings legitimises the loyalist drug dealers. It subverts

society. The paramilitaries need to either disarm, or else be entirely criminalised. ...

By loyalist thugs. Don't you watch the news?


The INLA solution?

C/

SOTW: "Knight Moves" - Suzanne Vega

NEIL GAIMAN IN DUBLIN:
Neil Gaiman is to appear in the Dublin Bookshop on Grafton Street next Monday.

The full details, as taken from his website, are:

Date: 17 November 2003
Time: 19:00
Neil Gaiman will be talking about and reading from ‘The Wolves in the Walls’

and ‘Coraline’ at The Dublin Bookshop, 36 Grafton Street, Dublin 2.

More details at http://www.neilgaiman.com/where/where.asp

conor booze o brien

Never stopped you before!


Conor

michael adams

Of course not. He only posts on here so he can Spam authors and
bookshops to his hearts content. This Gamain character he's spamming
at presnt is apparently a best selling author - published by Harper
Collins - with no Irish connections as far as I can see anyway. Whether
digital gets a discount as as result of his repeatedly spamming the
Dublin Bookshop on SCI is something for him to say.

Cos if he doesn't.....

michael obnoxious adams

....

conor booze o brien

He may have a professional interest. He's a bit of a wee writer
himself, is Westie,


Conor

michael adams

You don't mean this, do you ?

http://www.slovobooks.com/phoenix/A009.html

Almost worth a new thread on its own.

Go on.....I'll leave it up to you.

Off to the oxfam bookshop.


michael obnoxious adams

westprog

Well, MI5 don't pay that well. Have to supplement my income somehow.

C/

SOTW: "Knight Moves" - Suzanne Vega

NEIL GAIMAN IN DUBLIN:
Neil Gaiman is to appear in the Dublin Bookshop on Grafton Street next Monday.

The full details, as taken from his website, are:

Date: 17 November 2003
Time: 19:00
Neil Gaiman will be talking about and reading from ‘The Wolves in the Walls’

and ‘Coraline’ at The Dublin Bookshop, 36 Grafton Street, Dublin 2.

More details at http://www.neilgaiman.com/where/where.asp

conor booze o brien

Absolutely. His interests lie in some fantasy genre or other, as you would expect.


Do you trade these books?


Conor

michael adams

....


verrry gooooood!

(Terry Thomas) .....

Actually I wasn't off to oxfam. That was a jokey ref to the
other thread.

In answer to your question though, nope. Some collectors claim to
finance their hobby by doing so, but I've never sold a book in my
life. I just accumulate duplicate copies of favourite books instead.
The prices you can get on Ebay are (to me at least) far too low,
and whenever I buy a book on there I wonder how anyone can make
any money at it, if you cost the time you take to find the stock,
and then pack the things etc etc.

The yanks on the book group claim to be able to pick up saleable
books for peanuts but Oxfam for one, are getting quite pricey nowadays.
And sorting through jumble sales and car boot sales begins to pall
after a few years. I only ever buy stuff that appeals to me personally

And ebay and the internet means the days of wandering through the
basements of Charing Cross Road bookshops and elswhere in London are
now long gone. I never pay prices where I could demand very good\fine
condition anyway, important to collectors and hard to judge over the
web, but I've had no problems with poor descriptions so far You can find
books on the web that you'd never find in a lifetime otherwise. I used
a book search service once many years ago - but there were condition
problems with a number of the books which were harder to resolve with a
middleman involved.

And sorting through places stacked out with books like Hay on Wye is
almost enough to put anyone off of collecting althogether. I used to visit
three bookshops in Richmond quite regularly as well - the guy in Paradise
Rd who gets loads of Review Copies, the s\h basement in the small bookshop
in the alley by the William Hickey Church, and the one at the foot of
the Hill for odds and ends. Better than any of these though was the
Guildhall Bookshop in Twickenham. Now long gone. The Gloucester Rd
bookshop still gets the odd visit though as they often have odd good
stuff downstairs. Runs of Design Magazine from the 60's and 70's at
50p a throw most recently. Oh and I used to go to Farringndon Rd
on Saturday morning when there were the stalls, and you'd all be
waiting and fighting for position as the bookseller pulled the
tarpaulins off of each of the stalls in turn. They were owned by
the one family who then opened a bookshop at the corner of Goswell
Rd IIRR in the City. But that's been closed around two years now
as well.

These weren't bought off the web though.

http://members.tripod.com/mjadams25/penguins/index.html

This is part of a bigger project. Some of the rest is on the .com
site, which nosey people could do a Whois search on. Silly me for
using my proper address. Oops!

bibliomaniac