sbobrow940

hitler was neither blond nor blue-eyed, but he was obsessed with
****ing little boys who were by creating the hitlerjugend. Of course,
hitler and his nazis are neither smart nor superior, and in fact are
unemployed, unskilled, and on welfare. See, e.g., nazi Finland's
Markku Grönroos <mailto:kurkku@kolumbus.fi>, who sells himself on the
streets of Helsinki so he can go **** little boys in Thailand.

See http://britishexpats.com/arch/41/2002/4/71018

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:alZzCHl-e9wJ:archive.britishexpats.com/41/2002/4/71018


Pattaya. There are better looking katoeys.

See http://www.google.com/search?q=katoeys

Markku Grönroos + Thai boys @ 626 186 793 / 965 710 837 Fax

The New South vs. "Dixie" Dean

Howard "Dixie" Dean's ignorant, racist stereotypes are demeaning to
both blacks and whites in the New South. "Dixie" Dean and his
Confederate flags have no place in the New South or the White House.

CBS 60 Minutes. "Going Home To The South." 10/27/2002.

Black suburban Atlanta may look like Beverly Hills, but it's Mecca for
many new migrants who are buying homes worth from $200,000 to more
than $2 million. And new subdivisions keep sprouting, marketed
especially to blacks.

Jeff Moten and his wife, Wanda, were in the first wave of this new
migration. Ten years ago, they moved here from outside New York City.
Most of their neighbors are also former Northerners.

"I blazed a trail to get out of New York," says Moten. "I just wanted
a better way for my kids."

That better way includes a lower crime rate than up North, easy access
to athletic facilities and to the arts, and several performances a
week at Atlanta's Chastain Park -- which includes champagne, Chopin
and Nancy Wilson.

It's a marvelous life, one that more blacks can now afford. Black
buying power nationwide has doubled in the last decade. Half of all
black households are now middle and upper income. And more blacks are
graduating from high school and college so they're able to land better
jobs and buy better homes.

Moten's neighbors, Eduard and Shari Weathers, and Keith and Detra
Burrell said moving South brought them the promised land.

"My father used to always say, 'Stop asking for a piece of the pie.
Make your own damn pie.' And this is us making our own pie," says
Detra Burrell.

"This is what we have. This is what we want. We're no different from
anybody else. We want nice homes. All of us have college degrees here.
All of us have white-collar jobs. Why should we have to settle for
anything less than what we have?"

Their white-collar jobs include financial consultant, school
principal, Xerox executive and computer programmer. Plus, high-tech
jobs are attracting blacks and whites to the South. But for blacks,
it's coming back to their roots. Many who've moved South say they feel
they've come home. And more than 3.5 million came home in the '90s -
twice as many as came in the '80s.

They can also find good black public schools, and trendy bars and
cafes, where the only whites are behind the bar.

"My younger brother's in the Navy, in San Diego, and he was here for
about a week," says Eduard Weathers. "And I rode him around the
neighborhood, and I said, 'Yeah, and it's just about all black out
here.' And he looked at me, he said, 'You're kidding? Those houses we
saw, black people live in those houses?' I said, 'Yeah.'"
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Renee Thomas found it hard to be black in a white neighborhood, so her
family left Philadelphia and moved to a black community outside
Atlanta. Up north, they'd been the only African-Americans in a
neighborhood of 100 white families.

"We were the first blacks that our neighbors' children had ever seen,"
says Thomas. "You often feel like you don't fit in."

But this is what really shocked her. Their son, Shay, the only black
on his school football team, was scared because he was about to play a
team that was all black.

"It really bothered me," says Thomas. "Because here my son, who's
African-American himself, was very afraid of the other team."

The football incident convinced Shay's parents they had a problem.

"Our children really identified with Caucasian children, but were very
uncomfortable around African-American children," says Thomas. "I hate
to say it, but yes. But I really wanted an African-American boy. I
didn't want a white child."

Three months after that football game, the Thomas family moved south.
Now, Shay's in a black public school making new friends.

Laurie Beard also grew up in a white neighborhood, in Milwaukee. But
her parents sent her to an all-black college, Spelman, in Atlanta, to
learn more about her own culture.

"It was just unbelievable because being from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, you
know, you're one of, you know, a few," says Beard. "And then when I
got off the flight, it was like, 'Oh, my God.' I just never realized
there were so many black people in one setting."

But Beard says she'd never move back north. In Atlanta, she got her
college degree, got married, and convinced her parents to leave
Milwaukee and come live nearby. Her parents, Israel and Gwen Beard
needed convincing because they had been part of the original migration
north, and had bad memories of the South.

Back in the '50s, Israel Beard had been a teacher in Tennessee, but he
got fed up when his white supervisor kept calling him and the school's
other black teacher "boy" in front of their students.

"I thought that that was a little debasing," remembers Israel, who
says without question that it was better in the North at that time.
"The overtness of the racism, the bigotry was not present."

He says he never expected to come back, but visiting his daughter and
seeing the change made him change his mind. Now, he says the new South
has won him over.

The South that he left was segregated effectively by force, but in the
new South, blacks can have segregation by choice.

"When we first moved here, we had the opportunity to pretty much move
on any side of town," says Moten. "And it was important to me for my
kids to see black families, mothers and fathers, households, you know,
doing well. I want them to think, 'Well, this is the norm.' I've
arrived here in my lovely black neighborhood."

"Why even move to a white neighborhood when you have a nice black
neighborhood you can move into," adds Keith Burrell, who says that
white families are welcome to move into his neighborhood.

"Everybody's welcome to move here. Wouldn't have a black power sign on
their door or their yard. No. Wouldn't bother us at all."

"I think that's the misconception, and I think that's because when we
move into their neighborhoods, it's like, 'Oh, my God. Put the house
on the market. Lock the doors.' And I hate to say it, but if they came
in, I would wonder ... One of the things you'd say, 'Well, what's up
your sleeve?' 'What is it that you want? Are you selling drugs?'"
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Now, there are a lot of grown black people who wear braces on their
teeth.

"That's our badge of courage. We've arrived," says Burrell. "Growing
up, the only kids that had braces were those kids that had money.
Everybody we grew up with had the little bent-up teeth, going in
different directions. And now, we're 40 years old. I have arrived.
Look at my braces."

But not everyone can afford them. Nationwide, one in five blacks still
lives in poverty - one in five, even in Atlanta. But that's a dramatic
improvement from 10 years ago when the poverty rate was one in three.

"You understand that you are middle class, so that you might help
somebody," says Cynthia Hale, who launched her church 16 years ago
with just four people. Now, she preaches to more than 6,000 people,
and most of them live in all-black, middle and upper class
neighborhoods.

"I was so excited about being at a place where I could just kind of be
myself and let my hair down," remembers Hale. "I didn't have to prove
anything to anybody. And I think that's what causes people of any
race, any culture, to self-segregate."

Alex Wilkerson agrees. He says he was the last person who ever
expected to move back south. During World War II, he trained combat
pilots in Tuskegee, Ala. But after the war, he couldn't land a decent
job in the South.

"I realized that there were no opportunities, regardless of what
skills I could have acquired," says Wilkerson.

He moved north in disgust. But last year, he and his wife moved back
south to be near their daughter, Isabella Wilkerson, a Pulitzer
prize-winning reporter for The New York Times who moved to Atlanta to
research a book on the original migration north.

She told us that now many northern blacks are drawn to the South
because this is their mother country, the cradle of their culture.

"There's always a searching to find out whatÑwhere did this begin, and
why do we eat the food that we eat? Why do we listen to the music that
we listen to? Why do we speak the way that we do? And this is a way to
find that out," says Isabella Wilkerson, who admits she really didn't
want to come back.

Isabella Wilkerson says she got a scare recently when she came out of
an Atlanta bagel shop. It was raining so hard she couldn't make it
back to her car.

"While I was waiting, a man came towards me. He was a gaunt, tall man
who had a white goatee, and he looked as if he might have been in
another time and place -- a Confederate general," she says. "And I
immediately had this visceral reaction to him, just at how he looked."

The man, who had an umbrella, offered to walk her to her car in the
pouring rain. "I was amazed that this was happening. I had sized him
up as a Southerner that I should probably steer clear of, and he
showed this Southern hospitality that you hear so much about but don't
believe exists," says Isabella Wilkerson. "It had never happened to me
in all the years I've lived in the north."

If Martin Luther King Jr. were alive, what would he say about what was
going on in Atlanta today?

"Even he might be speechless," says Isabella Wilkerson.


Melanie Eversley. "Miller takes swipe at Dean: Comments on South
criticized." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. 11/03/2003.

WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean "knows
about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," Democratic
Sen. Zell Miller of Ge****a said on Sunday's "Meet the Press" -- part
of his talk-show tour to publicize his new book.

Miller was reacting to a statement made the day before by Dean, the
former governor of Vermont, that he wanted to appeal to Southerners
with Confederate battle flags on their pickup trucks.

Miller was on the show to explain the philosophy of his book, "A
National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat," as
well as answer to the many Democrats who question why he supports tax
cuts, the war with Iraq and other measures they view as Republican.

Miller said Dean's statement proves he knows little about people in
Ge****a and other Southern states.

"That's the same kind of caricature that I write about in this book,"
Miller said. "I write about . . . in 1988 [Democratic presidential
candidate] Michael Dukakis coming to Ge****a and having this rally,
and they had all these bales of hay stashed around here and there,
like it was some kind of set from the television show 'Hee Haw.'
That's not what the South is."

Instead, Miller said, the South is a progressive place where people
work hard and are concerned about making ends meet. "In Ge****a, we
have several statewide elected officials who are African-American . .
.. they were being elected in a state that's 70 percent white," he
said. "This is not the South that Howard Dean thinks it is. Sure, we
drive pickups. But on the back of those pickups you see a lot of
American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you
see hardworking individuals that want to instill values in their
children."

Dean's statement has also been attacked by several of his presidential
rivals, who said the reference to Rebel flags sounded like an appeal
to racism.

msflora99

Hitler liked little boys as he had only Youth Defence, I mean Hitler
Youth
to defend him in the bunker.

"Hitler had only one wee ball,

Goering had two, but they were small.

Himmler had something similar,

But Goebels had no balls had no balls at all".

Actually Goebels had balls, but they died with him and his wife and
six (?) kinder in the bunker.

Flora