dave

: > There are a number of place-names with the word tor in Derbyshire and
: > ***berland. According to Anglo-Saxonist dogma these names originate from a
: > migrating group of Cornish people. Have anyone in Cornwall got any
: > information upon this group. Also the Derbyshire place-name Dinas Sitch Tor,
: > what does it mean in English.What does the cornish word dinas mean?
:
: Dave,
:
: Tor is found in a few languages in the West of Europe, ie Twr in Whelsh
: means 'tower'. Also Tor as in English means tower too like in Glastonbury
: Tor. In A-Saxon Ive only found 'tormer' meaning towering sea. Its also in
: Spanish etc all meaning tower. All from Latin originally.
: Tor as in West Devon and Cornwall is, I believe, a Devon dialect word,
: again of latin origins. It means 'rock'. Devon Tors are all rocks not
: hills, the tors may well sit on rocks. We find Torpoint, Torwood etc. It
: is not of Cornish origins, but is Devonian because as you go west the word
: vanishes to be replaced by the Cornish word 'men' meaning rock.
: (Tablemain, Minack, etc). Bolventor on Bodmin moor is a modern name, 'Bold
: Venture'.
:
: Dinas in Cornish means 'fort' as does 'dyn' in the place name Pendeen. Ive
: never heard of Dinas sitch tor. Cornish travelling into England?: In the
: past theve always traveled onto the sea, hence the Bretons. Also to the
: New World.
:
: Hope I have helped,
: Jon
:
: -- Mensaje enviado desde http://www.xasa.com/grupos/

Thanks Jon, your article is very informative. Dinas Sitch Tor is actually
***bric. Sitch or Syke is a local Celtic word for a stream. Dinas or fort
refers to the rocks on top of this Tor. A stream falls from the top of this
Tor. There is no evidence of Cornish miners ever having visited either the
Peak Forest or ***bria, although there is plenty of evidence of German
miners from Saxony who mined fluorspa and lead in the Peak Forest and
graphite in ***bria. The word tor is applied both to outcrops of rock and
also to rocky cliffs. Glastonbury seems to be from glas (Celtic meaning
blue) tor (Celtic rather than Saxon) bury (Norwegian, or Viking for the
mental defectives who do not know who the Norwegians and Danes are). There
is nothing Anglo-Saxon or "English" (i.e. the white Protestant section of
the population in the Midlands heartland and South-Eastern England) about
this place-name. It is interesting that Norwegians (Vikings for the mental
defectives) should have settled at or near Glastonbury.
:

cthulhu

Tor can be found in Scotland as well. Torwood near Plean in (formerly)
Stirlingshire refers to a 'tower' which was probably a Pictish broch. I
don't think it is as common a name in Scotland as in SW England.

dave

Again very useful and vital information, thank you! Must go to bed now.


: Tor can be found in Scotland as well. Torwood near Plean in (formerly)
: Stirlingshire refers to a 'tower' which was probably a Pictish broch. I
: don't think it is as common a name in Scotland as in SW England.
: "Dave" <flink@btinternet.com> wrote in message : news:be2col$es5$2@titan.btinternet.com...
: >
: > "jon" <jonathonmitchell@yalla.com.lb> wrote in message
: > news:bdpomo$v8e8n$1@ID-116363.news.dfncis.de...
: > : Dave escribió:
: > :
: > : > There are a number of place-names with the word tor in Derbyshire and
: > : > ***berland. According to Anglo-Saxonist dogma these names originate : from
: > a
: > : > migrating group of Cornish people. Have anyone in Cornwall got any
: > : > information upon this group. Also the Derbyshire place-name Dinas : Sitch
: > Tor,
: > : > what does it mean in English.What does the cornish word dinas mean?
: > :
: > : Dave,
: > :
: > : Tor is found in a few languages in the West of Europe, ie Twr in Whelsh
: > : means 'tower'. Also Tor as in English means tower too like in : Glastonbury
: > : Tor. In A-Saxon Ive only found 'tormer' meaning towering sea. Its also : in
: > : Spanish etc all meaning tower. All from Latin originally.
: > : Tor as in West Devon and Cornwall is, I believe, a Devon dialect word,
: > : again of latin origins. It means 'rock'. Devon Tors are all rocks not
: > : hills, the tors may well sit on rocks. We find Torpoint, Torwood etc. It
: > : is not of Cornish origins, but is Devonian because as you go west the : word
: > : vanishes to be replaced by the Cornish word 'men' meaning rock.
: > : (Tablemain, Minack, etc). Bolventor on Bodmin moor is a modern name, : 'Bold
: > : Venture'.
: > :
: > : Dinas in Cornish means 'fort' as does 'dyn' in the place name Pendeen. : Ive
: > : never heard of Dinas sitch tor. Cornish travelling into England?: In the
: > : past theve always traveled onto the sea, hence the Bretons. Also to the
: > : New World.
: > :
: > : Hope I have helped,
: > : Jon
: > :
: > : -- Mensaje enviado desde http://www.xasa.com/grupos/
: >
: > Thanks Jon, your article is very informative. Dinas Sitch Tor is actually
: > ***bric. Sitch or Syke is a local Celtic word for a stream. Dinas or fort
: > refers to the rocks on top of this Tor. A stream falls from the top of : this
: > Tor. There is no evidence of Cornish miners ever having visited either the
: > Peak Forest or ***bria, although there is plenty of evidence of German
: > miners from Saxony who mined fluorspa and lead in the Peak Forest and
: > graphite in ***bria. The word tor is applied both to outcrops of rock and
: > also to rocky cliffs. Glastonbury seems to be from glas (Celtic meaning
: > blue) tor (Celtic rather than Saxon) bury (Norwegian, or Viking for the
: > mental defectives who do not know who the Norwegians and Danes are).
There
: > is nothing Anglo-Saxon or "English" (i.e. the white Protestant section
of
: > the population in the Midlands heartland and South-Eastern England)
about
: > this place-name. It is interesting that Norwegians (Vikings for the
mental
: > defectives) should have settled at or near Glastonbury.
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

bertie the bunyip

So, how do you see things given that you have a phoney Irish brogue?

Bertie