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Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
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Subject: G-d's Will - Jews No Longer OWN The Land Israel
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:27:25 GMT
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(Excerpt)


Who gave "Jews" the land in 1948? If you say G-d then you are wrong! G-d
has thoroughly dispossessed you of the land that you claim as YOURS. The
Temple being in ruins for nearly two thousand years is tantamount to the
fact as spoken:

THE TEMPLE INUAGURATION AND GOD'S STATEMENT

1 Kings 9:3-9 (English-RSV):
3 And the LORD said to him [King Solomon], "I have heard your prayer and
your supplication, which you have made before me; I have
consecrated this house which you have built, and put my name there for
ever; my eyes and my heart will be there for all time.
4 And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked,
with integrity of heart and uprightness, doing according to all that I
have commanded you, and keeping my statutes and my
ordinances,
5 then I will establish your royal throne over Israel for ever, as I
promised David your father, saying, 'There shall not fail you a man upon
the throne of Israel.'
6 But if you turn aside from following me, you or your children, and do
not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but
go and serve other gods and worship them,
7 then I will cut off Israel from the land which I have given them; and
the house which I have consecrated for my name I will cast out of my
sight; and Israel will become a proverb and a byword among all peoples.
8 And this house will become a heap of ruins; everyone passing by it will
be astonished, and will hiss; and they will say, 'Why has the LORD done
thus to this land and to this house?'
9 Then they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD their God who brought
their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and
worshiped them and served them; therefore the LORD has brought all this
evil upon them.'"

Here is Jesus foretelling of the current temple destruction and the
casting of the Jews who presumed to still have G-d's approval:

Matthew 21:33-46 (English-RSV)
33 [Jesus said] "Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted
a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and
built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into
another country.
34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the
tenants, to get his fruit;
35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and
stoned another.
36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the
same to them.
37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the
heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.'
39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40
When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those
tenants?"
41 They said to him, "He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and
let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in
their seasons."
42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very
stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this
was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and
given to a nation producing the fruits of it."
44 _
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they
perceived that he was speaking about them.
46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because
they held him to be a prophet.

[...]

God destroyed the Temple and drove Jews out from Israel almost 2000 years
ago! Was it God or was it man's doing that Israel be made a State in 1948?

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Consider this:

http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00hb0
(Link still active May 16, 2003 and saved locally as: MFAH00hb0)
"THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL May 14, 1948
On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine
expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and
approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the
State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night at 11:00 AM
Israel time by the United States and three days later by the USSR...
Text:
ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of
the Jewish people...
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it
throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return
to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

<<Tavish comment May 16, 2003: It was GOD himself who drove you out BUT is now
MAN countering God's will by trying to undo what GOD did and willed.>>

In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish
State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the
right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.

This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917,
and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular,
gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people
and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National
Home...

<<Tavish comment May 16, 2003: Thus we see it is MAN creating the Jewish State
of Israel rather than it being GOD.>>

On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a
resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the
General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as
were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This
recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish
their State is irrevocable.

This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own
fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.

ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE
DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE
OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE
UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH
STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate
being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until
the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance
with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly
not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a
Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's
Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be
called "Israel"....

WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews
of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them
in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption
of Israel.

PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE ALMIGHTY, WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION
AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE
HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR,
5708 (14TH MAY,1948).

* Published in the Official Gazette, No. 1 of the 5th, Iyar, 5708 (14th May, 1948).
--<END>--

Hardly looks like God brought about the disenfranchisement of Palestinians
from their land does it? Modern "Israel" was mandated by man NOT by God!

~~End of Expanded GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

IF the present State of Israel is truly a restoration of land by God to the Jews
then why would God have driven Jews out of Israel ~2000 years ago when they
denounced Jesus as the scripture above showed and then "recently" restore the
land to Jews who have to this day have not recognized Jesus as the Messiah? VERY
IMPORTANT QUESTION!!

I.E.

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Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
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Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

Israel today is a Communist/Socialist state as proven by these archives:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&s...4ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Political Parties of Israel (Israel is a Communist Sympathizer Nation!)
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Date: 18 May 2003 07:27:35 GMT

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Subject: Capitalism, Communism, and Technology in Jewish Thought (In Their Own
Words Series)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:32:52 -0600
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In fact the world's largest Jewish organization has funded a communist:

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Subject: Tax Exempt Religious Org (B'nai Brith) Gave Communist Financial and Moral Support
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Date: 4 Jun 2003 21:52:32 GMT

Communism is diametrically opposed to Christianity yet many people who claim to
be the "Sheep of Jesus" support the enemies of the true faith!

More hostility toward the "faith" by Pharisaic Jews:

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Subject: Lubavitcher Given Congressional Gold Medal aka Congressional Jewish
Lobbyists -- Whose Interests Do They Serve?
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:41:46 -0500
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How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
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Subject: The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives & Research) V2 R_0524
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Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:10 GMT
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Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
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Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
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Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
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Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
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Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT
How Later Christianity was treated by Jews:
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
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Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians - Date: 1998/01/18
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Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) R_0425
Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:14:41 GMT
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Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
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Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT

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Subject: Jews and Their Intolerance Toward Christian Symbols-- Crosses
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:31:56 -0500
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How anyone who claims to be a Christian can support the illegitimate State of
Israel run by communists/socialists is a real stretch of reality and a definite
indicator of how ignorant people are of the Devil's Designs!

A MUST see also:

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Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
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Tavish

--Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals--
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Subject: Bigoted Reasoning of Jews on Relations with Non-Jews From Chabad Lubavitch Cyberspace Website
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Subject: Exclusion Entirely of Non-Jews in the Jewish Scheme of Things! R_0426
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Subject: About Kashrus and Supervision - What Jews Teach Concerning non-Jews (In
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