cody

You would think that a nation born out of the holocaust would have more
respect for human life and dignity but unfortunately they started off as
terrorists and they are still behaving that way

cody
v.vincent@mchsi.com

ed

Sure.... go ahead and believe that. Then take your Thorazine and call me in the morning.

fay

Site please where a Jew was a murdering suicide bombing terrorist.

s. liberman & company ltd.

First, get it straight that the Jewish nation predates any Arab or American
State. Most Jews were expelled from the land almost two millenia ago,
following the Roman conquest and the destruction of the Second Holy Temple.
There was never a Palestinian state. Philistine was a region of the
terrotory now and previously called Israel, so named by the Romans probably
because the Israelite previously often fought the Philistine (one of which
was Goliath). Now that Israel again controls Jerusalen, archeological
evidence keeps being discovered.

Israel was re-estaiblished by UN partition in 1947, a plan sanctioned by
Israel but rejected by the Arabs who did not, and still by and large do not,
beleive the State of Israel has a right to exist. No sooner did Israel
declare independence in 1948 than it was attacked by its Arab neighbors, and
Jews in Arab countries were expelled. Despite there not being an IDF at the
time and being vastly outnumbered, Israel prevailed. The Arabs attacked
again in 1967. That war lasted all of six days, with Israel again
prevailing. This time Isreal captured the West Bank from Jorden, the Gaza
Strip from Syria, and the Sinai Penninsula from Egypt. Since the war
defensive from Israel's perspective, the capture of land was legitimate,
and, in fact, a necessary buffer zone considering Arabs' hostile tendencies.

Israel eventually returned the Sinai penninsula to Egypt following a peace
accord between the two countries and Egypt's acknowledging Israel's right to
exist. To this day, no other Arab country has made that acknowledgement, and
a technical state of war still prevails. And current "Palestinian" refugees,
although easily absorbed by other Arab states, are left as refugees in the
West Bank and Gaza, as a thorn in Israel's side.

Nevertheless, the Israelis were willing to reach an accomodation with the
Palestinians just as they had with Egypt. Under the Oslo plan, the Jews were
to transfer land to the Palestinians as a measure of good faith. They did.
The PA was supposed to crack down on terrorism. Instead, they've fueled the
fire (more terrorist acts occured in the 5 years post Oslo than in the 15
years prior). The Palestinians were supposed to protect Jewish Holy Sites.
Instead, Joseph Tomb in Bethlehem was destroyed, and Rachel's Tomb
desicrated. The Israelis were to educate their population towards peacefully
co-existence with their Arab neighbors, as were the Palestinains toward the
Jews. Well, today, the majority of Israelis favor peace with an independent
Palestinian State, although the actual percentage came down follows Arafat's
rejection of Ehud Barak's offer at Camp David in 2000. Today, approximately
75% of Palestinians beleive the terror campaign should continue until the
last Jew is gone. Palestinian schoolchildren are indoctrinated from a very
young age to hate Jews, to the point where children can't wait to blow
themselves up to kill Jews.

On PA-controlled television, Muslim clerics call on faithful Muslims to kill
Jews wherever in the world they are found. Post Oslo, Arafat yells "peace"
in English and "Jihad (holy war) in Arabic.

And you talk about how badly Israel is acting? Israel has the capabily of
laying waste to the entire Arab region, yet when called upon to uproot
terrorist enclaves in Jenin, it sends in ground troops, at great risk
(consider the ambush at which 17 IDF soldiers lost their lives), rather the
safer air strike, in order to minimize civilian casualties.

Those are the facts. Israel, while commiting the occasional mistake, is
still dedicated to peace. Live with it.

Second, whatever Israel is doing in its own defence is reactive not
proactive.

alex

ok so I move my things into your house and there will be no problem because you
understand I'm not leaving? For ever? Especially since millennia ago my
ancestors lived in the area?
I imagine you would not want to reason.