torresd

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SINOPSIS
Año 1994. Periodistas graban y entrevistan
a siete cubanos durante los días previos de
lanzarse al mar para alcanzar las costas
norteamericanas.

Después de un tiempo,
los reporteros encuentran a la mayoría de
ellos en el campamento de refugiados de
la base estadounidense de Guantánamo.

A los siete años,
las cámaras se reencuentran
con estas personas,

tanto en Cuba como en Estados Unidos,
y recogen su experiencia vital y evolución
durante este periodo.

pedro martori

http://www.neoliberalismo.com/habana_hoy.htm

VER AQUI PORQUE LOS CUBANOS SE QUIEREN ESCAPAR DE SU PATRIA...

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torresd

Pedrito, viste la pelicula, Balseros,
anda que es muy buena.

torresd

Que mentira mas grande, Pedrito.
Los Cubanos blancos le tienen asco a los Cubanos Negros
y eso todo el mundo lo sabe.

Antes de Fidel Castro, Los Negros Cubanos,
no tenian la mas minima proteccion del gobierno.
Ni para estudiar, ni para recibir atencion de un medico,
nada de nada.

Gracias a Fidel Castro, hoy dia en Cuba, los Cubanos Negros
son abogados, medicos, tienen su educacion universitaria.

La vida de un negro Cubano en Cuba no valia dos chavos
antes de Fidel Castro y tu lo sabes, todo el mundo lo sabe.

Dejate de mentiras baratas.

Anda vete a ver la pelicula Balseros.

O es que ya la viste y no quieres comentar.

pedro martori

LA QUE MIENTE Y TERGIVERSA SOBRE LA REALIDAD DE LA CUBA QUE YO si CONOCIA
MEJOR QUE TU...PUESTO QUE NACI EN ELLA ERES TU Y LOS APOLOGISTAS DEL MAS
GRANDE TRAIDOR A CUBA DE NUESTRA HISTORIA...

EN CUBA antes del kastrato habian negors con diplomas de medicos,
ingenieros abogados,
maestros, etc...y no eran pocos.

EN CUBA, EN AQUELLOS TIEMPOS ANTERIORES A ESTA PESADILLA DE 44 ANIOS,
HABIAN CUBANOS NEGROS EN EL CONGRESO , O SEA EN AMBAS CAMARAS , LA DEL
SENADO Y LA DE REPRESENTANTES...
INCLUSO A NIVEL DE MINISTRO TAMBIEN LOS HUBO.

Y DESDE LUEGO EN EL ARTE, EL DEPORTE...NI SE DIGA...PARA DE CONTAR...

ASI QUE LA MENTIROSA AQUI ERES TU Y EL REGIMEN QUE DISFRAZA Y TERGIVERSA AL
REALIDAD...CON MEDIAS VERDADES. Y MENTIRAS.

Lo cierto y real era , en honor a la verdad que el negro en Cuba, no
siempre , se las vio negras...al ser discriminado para puestos de trabajo en
muchos sitios .Pero lo mismo les sucedia a muchos blancos tambien...
Sin embargo, el racismo actual en Cuba es diez veces peor que en aquella
epoca.
Y ya no es de los blancos, sino tambien en reverso...

asi que no hables de lo que no sabes o no seas mentirosa.


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torresd

"pedro Cuba, prior to the conquest of Castro, was irritatingly similar to
the American South in its race relations. Cuba was a typical Southern state,
except that the inhabitants spoke with a Spanish accent. The leadership
class was what we'd call "lily white." Cuba was basically a two-tiered
society, in which the upper and middle classes were predominantly "white"
people of Spanish, other European or British-American origin, and the bottom
class was predominantly black and mixed-race. The capitol of the leadership
was Havana. The core of the workership was Oriente Province, later dominated
by a large American Company, United Fruit. That's where Castro was born.

During the waning years of the Civil War in America, when the handwriting
was on the wall that the South would lose, substantial numbers of white
slave owners fled the country, along with their slaves, and settled in Cuba,
vowing to maintain the race/class privileges they enjoyed in the South.

These refugees from the Confederacy were welcomed by and blended in well
with Spanish colonizers who had enjoyed their own period of slavery and
depended upon slaves and later their offspring to harvest the sugar cane and
provide the labor for its agriculture, service and entertainment
industries.. Under Spanish rule, and thereafter under American-supported
Batista rule, Cuba became the playground for American politicians and
gangsters. Its best properties were held by multinational corporations.
Black Cubans were rigidly discriminated against, and prominent signs warned
them that most public beaches and other areas of public accommodation were
off-limits to them. This is the Cuba that official America looks back upon
with such maudlin nostalgia.

Anyone reading America's newspapers today would not pick up so much as a
hint of this antebellum background about Cuba. The only thing one hears from
the American media is that Cuba is a communist island 90 miles from
America.. It is a brutal dictatorship run by Castro, an unmitigated and
unreconstructed thug. One hears only about the absence of civil liberties in
Cuba; only rarely and begrudgingly does one hear of the absence of the
abject poverty and hopelessness that was the plight of so many, especially
black Cubans, prior to Castro.

Only rarely and begrudgingly is there mention of the low infant mortality
rates; the universal access to free public education through college; the
successful integration of black Cubans into the educated and political
classes and the military; the existence of universal health care; their
export of medical, scientific and other expertise to other impoverished
nations of the Caribbean and Africa - not to mention, America.

Many Americans like myself have felt it tragic that this nation has treated
the Cuban revolution with such unmitigated scorn and hostility. As we've
noted the progress Cubans have made under Castro, we are left to wonder what
could have happened had America been Cuba's friend instead of its most
implacable enemy.

martori" <pedro1940@progression.net

rigger

Doris, you are painting a too bright picture of Cuba today.

The whole island is afflicted by that abject poverty, which
you say does not exist. People's homes are falling in shambles
and rubble literally, and they don't even have the meand for
repairing, as they actually cannot afford anything more than
the scarce food. You think we get our information from
"American media", but contrary to your belief, we have first
hand knowledge from extensive travelling as well as second
hand from relatives and friends. The picture you paint of
what was before Castro probably has errors, the present
government is falsifying history, just as was predicted by
George Orwell when he wrote Animal Farm and 1984. I snipped
the rest of your lengthy post, but you really must go there
to find out, instead of just posting the same propaganda
over and over. Only when you have first hand experience,
will you gain a bit of credibility for your statements of
what Cuba is or isn't - what it was is very hard to tell,
but I think that those elderly people that I have met in
Cuba tell it as they perceived it.

So Doris, if you care to find out, the truth is out there.

Urban

torresd

Urban, Did you see BALSEROS?

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anonymous

Read the book Cuba Diaries, author Isadora Tattlin.

The author _had_ leftist beliefs...

: )

noro morales

You mean she was a southpaw?