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121 13th October 16:13
michael johnson
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Using synthetics can't hurt. It is better than regular oil.

I am amazed at just how well made the vehicles are today. Even the
bottom of the barrel is yards above the best ones of 15-20 years ago.

The 302 was an engine from another era when tolerances were much
sloppier. Mine is the same way. If I run it hard it would need up to a
quart between changes and it was that way since it was new. This is
another reason that the 5.0L engines need regular oil changes because
the slop between the pistons and cylinder walls contaminate the oil more
than a tighter engine.

Changing every 30k miles should be fine. Just keep the transmission
fluid nice and pink.
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122 13th October 16:13
joe
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The added cost is miniscule considering the peace of mind. Hell, we'd
blow the entire savings for the year in one night out to the bar.

And it's a '96. That platform was the same one used on the 929 back
then if you recall.


Yeah, tell me about it! You know, it's amazing too - the difference
between my '93 5.0 and the '96 MPV. The '96 is a nice, tight, high-
revving SOHC, and the 5.0 is, well, a 5.0.


Yes, that nice, cherry pink is good.
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123 13th October 16:13
michael johnson
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....are we still talking about transmission fluid?
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124 13th October 16:13
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Right, I also have very large, very expensive stereo equipment,
which certainly isn't necessary. And in reality with the dual filter and
Amsoil or Donaldson filters I would most likely get just as good of
service form Mobil 1 or Havolin, I just prefer the better stuff. You
should spring for an oil analysis once JFTHOI just to see what it says.
Depending in the quality of your filters you may be shocked to see that
it's as good as it was when it came out the bottle.

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125 13th October 16:13
windsorfox
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Heh, Amsoil 20w50 racing oil is the color of ATF. And I learned from
and old engineer/engine builder that you can tell a good bit about your
oil by squeezing it between your fingers.

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"So round, so firm, so fully packed, so easy on the draw" - Daffy Duck

"Too bad it wasn't "personality theft"...you'd be immune." - Herb Tarlek
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126 13th October 16:13
michael johnson
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I have received all the analysis I need from my Explorer's odometer and
oil dipstick. They both tell me that the inexpensive oil and filters I
use are working just fine.
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127 13th October 16:13
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I'll agree 100%, with one addition. Use decent oil.Use heavy enough
oil for the conditions. 5W20 is not heavy enough for high speed high
temperature running. In ANY engine. I don't care what the manual says.
5W20 oil is for C.A.F.E. and notheing more.
Extended oil changes are a product of consumer legislation - an engine
must last through warranty on the reduced oil change schedule
published.

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128 13th October 16:13
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There is NO COMBUSTION going on in your automatic transmission, the
contaminations involved is orders of magnitude less...
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129 13th October 16:14
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No combustion, but lots of friction and more wear than in an engine.
The mechanism is also orders of magnatude more sensitive to
contamination, with the clearances in the valve bodies being EXTREMELY
close. Not as critical on today's electronic transmisssiona as on the
old "hydraulic brain" but still critical.

There is also a LOT of heat involved, which causes oxidation of the
fluid, just like combustion. You definitely have less acid production
and dilution - but it is, as I have repeated several times, still CRITICAL.

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130 13th October 16:14
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I meant just once to see what it says. You would find it interesting
regardless of the report.

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