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1 20th June 21:04
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Grrr...

Recently the hubby backed my truck up into a landcruiser, taking out the
tailight and leaving a nice big dent back there.

Thursday, I picked up the truck from the body shop, all fixed.

Today (Saturday) we're trying to get out of a parking spot downtown,
noticed a running fight between Aboriginals. A fairly heavyset woman is
screaming and threatening a one-legged man on crutches, who is trying to
run away. Another man, probably her SO, is trying to stop her. The
woman and her SO look to be indigenous (I haven't room here to go into
the social problems of the Australian Aboriginals), but the guy on
crutches looks to be a working citizen. Hardly a fair fight, the guy on
crutches was trying to run away. At one point he looks at us and makes
the universal "phone" sign, but I don't know the number to call the cops
(I only know the emergency #, she hadn't actually touched him yet), and
shrug - but note to myself the police station is just around the corner.

Well, before we can get out of the spot, the fight reaches the truck,
and in an attempt to get the woman away from the guy in crutches, he
throws her up against my truck. After a minute or two the fight moves
far enough away for us to make our escape.

We stop at the police station, and I go in to report the problem - they
knew this particular one-legged guy (actually, there's a lot of
one-legged Aboriginals in town, I have no idea why). Hubby comes
running in, to tell me they DENTED MY TRUCK.

ARGH! Long dent, nearly two feet long, in the 'club cab' panel. Cop
tells me there's nothing to be done - since they weren't specifically
targeting my vehicle, it's not a criminal matter, it's an "accident".
Phooey. For a few moments, all I wanted to do was go back with a
baseball bat, and give that fat woman (who was causing the whole
problem) what for, and giving her SO a whack for throwing her against my
truck. I didn't, of course! We just drove home.

Anyway, the story has sort of a happy ending. We get the truck home,
and popped the dent mostly out by using a couple of suction cups. Now
it's more just a little blivet.

BTW, hubby was in the drivers' seat again. Poor guy, he's been having
really bad karma where my truck's concerned (and no, I'm not blaming him
for this!).

Ok. I just needed to vent. Maybe I should just cover the truck with
bubble wrap, and ride the bicycle instead...

jmc
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2 20th June 21:04
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Oz has not been kind to the Dak...

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3 20th June 21:04
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Suddenly, without warning, Mike Simmons exclaimed (29-Oct-06 10:56 AM):


No, it has not. I've had more problems in the 4 months we've been here,
than the previous three in England. I'm looking for the bubble wrap now

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4 20th June 21:04
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OPINION:

I can't help with the truck, but for explanation of the Aboriginal
situation, their status is akin to that of the Native American ( Amerind) in
that they've been mistreated over-run, subjugated, to the point of losing
their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland, the white
man.

Living in the Southwest US, I meet many Native Americans and have met, over
the years, a few Aboriginals that escaped the oppression. In both peoples
they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their
neighbors, as equals.

Interestingly, the liberals of both nations and Britain tend to overlook the
rights of the native peoples.

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5 20th June 21:04
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Suddenly, without warning, Budd Cochran exclaimed (29-Oct-06 10:43 PM):

Actually, it's a good bit more complicated than that. The law supports
Aboriginals - over-supports them often, due to Legal Aid - but certainly
the history of what white Australians did to the Aboriginal is worse
than what happened in the US. But many of individual's woes they
brought on themselves - Plenty of Aboriginals have managed to stay out
of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. But, as with the
American Indian, too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off
the gov't, rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and
becoming something more.

Oppression here is more on an individual rather than a gov't basis.
Many Aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics, violent, thieves,
beggars or all four, living in town and causing problems. Due to their
culture, which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those
individuals' problems are much more on display than any other culture.
One has to work very hard to stay open-minded, and many white
Australians in this town don't seem to be up to that challenge.

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6 20th June 23:47
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No, it's just the the "superior" species of man throwing its weight around.


When you destroy a group's collective soul, don't be surprised if it "hides
in a bottle". Tell a man he's worthless enough times and he'll become
worthless. The same is true of the Amerinds and the Abos as groups.

A few years ago, I had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby
Dine' (Navajo) tribe and a Moab resident. I asked the one question that had
never been asked of her people: "If the Whites had gone to the tribal
council and asked to live in peace, share the land, and agree to work out
differences without war, what would have happened?"

She looked me in the eye and said that most likely, if this had been done
with all the Indian Nations then we would still be living side by side and
in peace.

She and I discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the
American Indian is, in many ways, still a second class citizen, still under
government subjugation. And they need to be taught to live without subsidy,
taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded.

This lady was one of the thousands of Native American kids in the 50's that
had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the Whites, an
attempt to force white ways upon the Indians. Since she has learned her
people's traditions, laws and helped restore their original language and
often works as the Dine' / White liaison in the local hospital.

I'm currently helping her youngest son get a Ramcharger 4X4 running again by
teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. He was
sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew
nothing about how they worked. The vehicle had been his dad's before he died
from cancer. It's an honor to be asked help someone's son become a man.

Budd

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7 20th June 23:47
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oh yes, that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that
it is discussed in so many history books aside, good job man.

well, thast it then. i mean if she and you said it, it must be. crud,
we really messed up this one.


just another example of keeping the man down baby.

do you remember what was the leading "cause" or "movement" behind that
action budd? i do. read up on it. you will find it very interesting.

very liberal of you.
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8 20th June 23:47
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Boy, do I feel a big chuckle on the way.
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9 20th June 23:47
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Have you ever studied Amerind history, or just the
written-to-justify-the-action white history? Try "bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" for starters.

Well, it's apparent you wouldn't say it as your attitude right now is that
you are very superior to me and possibly the Amerinds.

Something you advocate? Like in, "Keep the Christians down, baby"? How many
murders does it take to be a murderer? How many bigotries to be a bigot?

Yep, to force the Amerinds into American WHITE society, regardless of what
your WHITE books say.

Try talking to someone that is a child / grandchild of a Trail of Tears
survivor, or one that survived those "fosterings" ( I know 4 personally, 2
men and 2 women) and their stories and experiences are close enought to reveal the truth.

No, just being a normal Fundamental Christian.

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"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.
It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."
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10 20th June 23:47
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I have no doubt that you would find it funny, Roy. It's just the way you
are, unfortunately.

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It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."
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