bob la londe

I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it
tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on
three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked
fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the
W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook.
It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not
believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the
line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad.

To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get
tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting
technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it
it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference
in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a
correlation.

My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand
straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a
person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but
I didn't quite get the trick to it.

Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction
Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far
superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop
shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook
in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout
Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag
end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail
to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and
grip the tag end of the line slightly.

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go-bassn

Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook,
just as a weedless wacky hook. A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the
bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting.

Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation,
and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does
(except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is
rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material.

As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly
& presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway.

Warren

bob la londe

I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran
across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot
point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was
downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any
alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook?
Bob La Londe

go-bassn

Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone
like that...

Warren

rodney

On added feature of the Stand out is when the line straightens out
against the weight it "kicks" the lure for added action


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rodney

Your HO is appreciated, but it is not based on any facts, as you have
not used this hook, so is based on just your dislike for me, I can even
accept that, but that needs to be in your post concerning my tackle designs

The benefits of the S/O hook are many,, for one, amateurs can quickly
rig it, you can't screw it up,, for two, it will be coming in all sizes
up to 9/0 for saltwater drop shotting and deep sea fishing, since it
seams you have never used big lures with a drop shot rig, you have
limited it's success potential for larger fish,, this new hook has been
used with huge lures as well as tiny ones,, drop shotting is now not
just for faness fishing. It will also come in sizes that can be rigged
weedless.

Another thing the S/O hook can do is allowing the use of larger hooks
than what the Palomar knot can't wedge into of other hooks, line size ,
(which determines knot size) determines what size standard hook can be
attached drop shot style, that is no longer the case with the S/O. The
drop shot hooks of the past have limited the size lures used on them

The leg of the S/O also "kicks" the lure, when the line straightens, the
weight of the lure has little to do with dampening this action, you
could test this even in the air, holding the line and snapping it
tightly, even with an 8 inch worm on it. the leg does not spook the
fish, if fact, in testing of the bleeding version it seams that leg
looks like a flared gill slit, attracting more strikes, than fishing a
standard drop shot hook

In this case Warren, just let everyone find out for themselves , or from
others that don't have an ax to grind.

I have caught over 1,000 fish with the S/O hook, using lures and using
natural baits, many more than any other fisherman, so I would think I am
the expert of this hook

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Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

bob la londe

See my other post for details. Its pretty funny.

Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

go-bassn

Can't see it Bob, where?

Warren
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bob la londe

"What is the problem..."
You replied to the original post earlier.

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go-bassn

Holy cow Bob, that is truly amazing. Can't blame you for feeling the way
they do.

I'm pretty sure you can tie-up some of those mono weedguards yourself, can't
you?

Warren