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1 11th June 22:25
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Hi, all-

Am new to this group, and going to be new to fly fishing. I expect to
purchase a basic setup with the next ten days, and would really
appreciate some help demystifying my basic equipment needs.

I have no delusions of being a championship fisherman. I'd just like
to have a nice day out (Thoreau was right, in my book) and will limit
my efforts to streams, small rivers, and ponds. Mainly I'd like to
land bluegill, smallmouth bass, and rainbows when the opportunity
presents itself. Generally catch-and-release.

I live in NE Oklahoma so I would do a lot of my fishing in this area
on ponds and streams. Also sneak over to Missouri to trout and
smallmouth fish about 10 times a year.

First, a question about "flex, length, and weight":

I've looked at the Orvis Clearwater Classic (combo) . They come in
two versions which would seem to fit my needs, (8'6", #4, Mid-Flex).
and (6'6" #4 Full-Flex). Would one or the other of these be better
for me to learn with and to use for a while for the type of fishing
I've described?

The last time I was in Mo., I dropped by Bass Pro Shops. (That place
is just unbelievable.) They have a "house brand" of rod and reel
that look nice, but I know el-zippo about them. It's "White River",
and they're very comparable in price to the Orvis setups I mentioned
before.

Also, can anyone recommend a basic package of flies and other
equipment I shouldn't be without? I'm not asking for the list to end
all lists, just a good starting place.

Last, are there websites around where I might find some good beginner
information without a sales pitch?

Thanks in advance. I'm excited about trying out this new sport, but
as I have no immediate friends in the sport, getting started is a
fairly daunting task.

Best regards.
Chuck
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2 11th June 22:26
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....until you threw smallmouth bass in the mix I would have recommended a
medium action 9'4 wt, but if you plan to target smallies, then a 5 wt
would be more the choice,in medium action. Since trout and bluegills eat
basically the same bugs, start out with some elk hair caddis, royal
coachmen and a handful of foam spiders for bluegill...the one bug that I
know of that will catch both bluegill and smallmouth is the "Sneaky
Pete" in any color as long as it's chartruese. A few wooly buggers in
small sizes for trout and gills and #6 buggers for smallmouth. Basic
black is always good but there are a myriad of colors out there to choose
from.
Rod choice is a tad harder only because it would be nice if you could
cast the rods you're considering first. In lieu of that, the Orvis 8'6",
#4, Mid-Flex would be OK, but go for the 5 wt for reasons already stated.
If you buy from Bass Pro, the guys in the fly shop there can recommend
fly patterns that work and, if memory serves, they have a pretty good
selection. That place is a regular "rest stop" for me on my way to Texas
and beyond. FWIW

Frank Church
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3 11th June 22:26
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....I hate to re: my own post but for the several newbies of late, a world
of info, stories, fly patterns, etc. can be found at flyanglersonline.com
and I highly recommend it...and, of course, there are a veritable plethora
(always wanted to use that word) of sites dedicated to fly angling.

Frank mired in the meniscus Church
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4 11th June 22:27
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I'm glad that you realize that it MUST be preceded by "veritable." :-)

It is, however, a singular noun.

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5 11th June 22:27
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But then, they all are.

Wolfgang
no, he won't get it......but, so what?
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6 12th June 04:08
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No, they aren't.

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7 12th June 04:08
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Ah, creative editing.

Wolfgang
see......i was right.
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8 12th June 04:08
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They aren't. Period. Full stop.


Whatever, Wolfgang. Just be careful about carpal tunnel syndrome in your
non-typing hand. Also, erections lasting more than four hours require
the immediate attention of a physician, if you can find one at this time
of night.

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9 12th June 04:09
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Are you sure about that?


A singular conceit, one we have seen before.

Wolfgang
and used without attribution.......tsk, tsk.
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10 12th June 04:09
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<snip>

Thanks very much for the advice, Frank. I'm heading up to Bass Pro
this weekend, and I'm going to print your post to take along as part
of my shopping list.
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