I had to give up the use of strike indicators. The social pressure was
just too hard. (I must admit that I also found it a bit suspicious
myself.)

Since I still want to catch fish with nymphs from longer distances,
I'm thinking of starting to use droppers with dries (which is much
more acceptable). However, I'm not familiar with many good dry fly
patterns for this purpose. That is, those dries that float extremely
well. The only one I know is Goddard caddis.

What kind of patterns do you use?

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This is a perfect use for those Psychedelic Spiders or any other color(such as
yellow) for easy visability. Foam works great for a tying material for this
purpose and once in a while they catch a fish also. I guess foam beatles would
work as well, but would be harder to see. You can see pictures on Stan's
flyswap pages.

A friend picked up a dozen of the yellow foam spiders from our club auction
last year and brought me a few pictures of some blue trout he caught on them in
Scotland last year. He started using them that way when the trout would not
leave his strike indicater along and he switched to those yellow foam spiders.

Big Dale

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So an ordinary indicator is unacceptable, but an indicator with a hook
in it is OK. Is that about it?

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Good for you. Leave the bobber fishing to the bait guys.

I don't, (see above), but those who do use big stimulators
in yellow or orange.

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Ken Fortenberry

In my limited experience, I've found that big foam flies (such as
the Club Sandwich or other hopper imitations) work well. Also,
Stimulators are good.


Chuck Vance

rw> So an ordinary indicator is unacceptable, but an indicator with a
rw> hook in it is OK. Is that about it?

Basically yes. Well, as long as it looks something like a fly (over
here a round piece of yellow foam with a hook wouldn't).

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I use Stimulators, large Royal Wulff's, Turk's taratula's, and the like but
also, if fishing small nymphs to spooky trout in shallow water I often use a
small Adams or AP. Last year I had a lot of fun with the Parawulff.

Anything that floats well will work fine and I try to adjust the dryfly to
the situation. Having said that I don't use the dry merely as an indicator,
so tend to select the dry more on the basis of the dry the trout is most
likely to come to the surface and take as opposed to it just being an
indicator.

Clark

Stimulator!

I usually use a bushy Elk Hair Caddis and I do tie some of them in
bright orange (and have caught fish on same). But as has been said
already any good floating fly should work as long as you don't use a
heavily weighted nymph. I've fished small Pheasant Tail nymphs behind
snowshoe hares foot emergers (both size 22s) during the September BWO
hatch and it has been a fantastic combo.

g.c.

so how does everyone attache the flies on the bend of the dry or by tying a
dropper loop or something else
i find i get a few tangles using the royal wullf for the dry on a dropper
loop have never tried on the bend is it just as effective/less prone to
tangle?