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21 26th August 10:10
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Christ!
The original 351 Cleveland (from 1970~1974 Only) was absolutely NOT a BIG
BLOCK!!!
Small block transmission bolt pattern, identical to the 302, and identical
motor mounts.

Besides the 351 Windsor is not more or less a 302 with 351 heads. It is a
taller (hence wider) block, with basically 302 heads.
This whole 351 Windsor head myth is just that a myth, unless you are talking
about a 1 year only 1969 351 Windsor 4-bbl head.
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22 26th August 10:10
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This being the case, you would think you would know that the 302 and the 351
Cleveland share the exact same transmission bolt pattern and engine mounts
and spacing, and that you could bolt either's heads onto the others block,
these indicators would generally be enough for the average Joe to realize
that the 351 Cleveland IS NOT A BIG BLOCK.
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23 26th August 10:10
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Many used to bolt the better breathing Cleveland heads onto the Windsor
block: http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/30220_clevor_engine/
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24 26th August 10:38
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My hazy memory might be bad but I seem to recall that the "C" was desirable
to build up because it could be bored. The "W" was bored as much as it
could be .... in fact I think I remember there were some problems with it
due to "thin walls".

Also ... one (forget which) had a version setup for truck use, IIRC.

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25 26th August 10:38
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Actually the C was the one that had the thinner cylinder walls, as
compared to the older W blocks anyway. This is according to the old Ford
Performance book I have here. I'm not so sure if Ford lightened their
castings for the Windsor in the later years or not.

The Cleveland was a nice engine to build for drag racing because of the
huge intake ports in the 4V heads. Too bad they messed up the exhaust
ports by dog legging them down at a relatively sharp angle. Before the
days of aftermarket heads for the Cleveland, people used to mill about
1.25" of the port away and install what was called a high port plate.
This basically removed the dogleg in the port and significantly
increased the exhaust flow for these heads. The Boss 302 head had
basically the same problem.

Chris
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26 26th August 10:38
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Ford engines of any displacement were *never* used from the factory in Jeep
Wagoneers. Originally they used Willys "Tornado" sixes and in 1966 used
AMC's 232 sixes. The Super Wagoneers used Buick V8's and from 1971-on all
Wagoneers used AMC engines.
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27 26th August 10:38
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Ever wonder what the "335" and "385" meant?

It's the distance between the centerlines of the camshaft bore and the
crankshaft bore.

351C, 351M and 400: 3,35 inches.
371 (truck), 429 and 460: 3.85 inches.

A little trivia from the past.
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28 26th August 10:38
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Interesting. I learned something new today. Never would have guessed
that's where the numbers came from.

Chris
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29 26th August 10:38
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And here I thought Ford made more Jeeps than Willys, during the war, and
again the independent wheel thing for the Army during the sixties.
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