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Of course I do. Where would my Camry be without the Meguiar's
Number-26
you recommended?

c. e. white

Here is a list for 2004 Model Year Cars -

http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/d...ic-content.pdf

Ed

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LOL! Well, that's a good thing!
Glad to see I have some purpose in life.

matt macchiarolo

Thank God for killfiling....

matt macchiarolo

Tell that to Honda, who had to buy back our Odessey a few years ago under my
state's lemon law....

sms

The biggest problem with the labels is that labor is not included as
part of the content. A Ford built in Mexico can have higher domestic
content than a Toyota built in California, but the latter is built in a
UAW plant providing living wages to workers. This suits the purposes of
the U.S. based automakers who are desperately trying to move as much
assembly outside the U.S. as possible, while touting "domestic content."

A vehicle that truly has high domestic content, and is assembled in the
U.S., has no advantage (in terms of the label) over a vehicle that is
manufactured elsewhere in North America with low domestic content.
People pay no attention to the label anymore. OTOH, the Japanese
manufacturers have done a good job of publicizing the fact that most of
their mass marked vehicles are manufactured in the U.S..

The best way to support the U.S. economy is to buy vehicles made in the
U.S.. You'll never figure out the true domestic content, so just go by
where the factory is. This is especially useful for the Japanese
companies, since they are sourcing as many components from the U.S. as
possible because they want the component manufacturing close to the
factory, and because they want to be shielded from currency issues
caused by the massive U.S. deficits, courtesy of George Bush.

mrdarrett

Are they really? How so? Which years?

Thanks,

Michael

dh

Since about 20% of Camrys are still built in Japan, this implies the
existence of Camrys that are 100% American.

So, if I want an American car, I should run down to my Toyota dealer and
simply pick one that was assembled here.

Thanks for the tip. [snip]


To put a label on the car that says, "the domestic content of THIS car is
XX%" would require additional work that some car companies probably don't
want to do. Wouldn't surprise me if their lobbyists worked against such a requirement.

Are ALL of those assembled in Mexico or is there a US factory, too? The
Hermosillo plant is profiled in the "Bold Moves" video on the Fusion but
whether or not there's also a US plant is unclear.

Now, if the run of the mill Camry is 80% domestic and most are also
assembled here, is that car more or less "American" than a Fusion built of
50% non-US parts that is then assembled in Mexico?

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c. e. white

In February, around 23% of the Camrys sold in the US were imported.
This implies to me that the US assembled Camrys must be close to 100%
domestic content (US + Canada) and that imported Camry must have >5%
domestic content as well, or the labels are just wrong.

Seems that way, as long as you are buying a Camry.

With the sort of inventory control that modern manufacturers are
using, I suspect it could be calculated easily and added to the
standard window sticker with minimal effort. But given the way
"domestic content" is defined, I am not sure it would be meaningful. .....


There is no US factory at this time. It seems that the Fusions are
selling well, so maybe Ford will have to reconsider having them all built in Mexico.

I'd say that the Camry has many more hours of "US American" labor per
car than the Fusion. As to where the money eventually goes, I have no
idea. I do think it is inherently unfair to treat Mexico different
than Canada. If a Fusion was built in Canada by Canadian workers, the
domestic content would probably be over 90%.

Ed

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So what this says is the Camry car line has a higher percentage of
'domestic' parts than the Mustang?!?!
Cool!

And that also explains why a Camry with a "J" VIN had 75% Domestic content
(in 2005)