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1 17th August 08:03
texassoles
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Desperately seeking advice!

I've got an '88 Ford Bronco II that is gonna need a new engine.
(During a tropical storm flood, water got in the air intake under the
headlight, then I messed up and tried to start it the next day, bent
two rods. Live and learn.) No flood damage to the truck though --
water never got up to the undercarriage, engine was never submerged,
no electrical got wet, etc. I wouldn't call it "flood damaged", if it
was, I would junk it. Aside from the engine, which never gave me any
trouble for 225K, the truck is in fine shape.

And I've been letting it sit covered for a couple of years now. I
checked prices at the time and it looked like the best option for
keeping the truck was to go with a remanufactured engine from a local
dealer: they tow it, pull it, replace with reman engine, 3yr/36k
warranty and I'm on the road. The reman was about $2300 then.

Now I've got to decide what to do with the truck, and would seriously
appreciate any advice and experience. The way I see it, I have three
options:

1) Get a junkyard engine and get my mech. to drop it in. According to
him, any engine we find will be just as old (88, early 90s) with high
miles, and it would be hard to find the engine anyway. My fear is,
why trust someone else's engine - how do I know that junkyard engine
won't crap out in 15 minutes, leaving me *exactly* where I am now,
minus $$$ and needing a new engine?

2) Rebuild the engine in it. About $3000.

3) Remanufactured engine, installed about $2300. What I have in mind
is Roadmaster or Thunderbolt, installed there, not AutoZone etc.

or, 4) buy something else. Unfortunately I can't really afford to
upgrade or take on a car note. What I get for my $2300-$3000 in used
truck, again will be around the same age with high miles, again what's
keeping that replacement truck from having a worn out engine, leaving
me where I am now.

I'm sentimental about the Bronco II, but I don't want to go with an
option that leaves me with more trouble. I'd rather put up to $2500
into it and drive it for at least another 100K over taking $120 for
scrap and picking up a 80s POS. Oh and even better, it's got to pass
California smog check next year (which I guess is easier with the
reman than a used engine).

Ideas, advice, horror stories... I need 'em!

David
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2 17th August 08:03
mistercmk
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Have you thought about dropping a 302 into it?
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3 17th August 08:04
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Hey David,

I'm in the EXACT scenario as your describe right now myself. Although, my
truck is a 87 F150 w/300 inline 6.

The BEST price/warranty package I came up with is from Advance Auto Parts.

They have my engine for $999 w/15 month Unlimited Mileage warranty. For an
additional $75, they will extend the warranty to (3) years/36
month/Unlimited Miles.

I don't think I'll be able to beat that!!

I would pay a LOCAL "good" backyard mechanic (around $150-200) to R&R the
engines or you could save a bunch and do it yourself.

If you go to a Dealer or Garage the will charge you out the A** for labor
costs!! Expect to pay $65hr+ !! Maybe about $500-700 Labor!

I Emailed every Engine Rebuilder I could find (including the one's you
mentioned) and they were ALL at least $1200 - 2000 with LESS of a warranty
than Advance!
PLUS you will need to pay FREIGHT BOTH WAYS on the Rebuilt engine PLUS your
CORE!! I say BS!

My dilemma is whether or not to go ahead and buy the rebuilt engine from
Advance or just get rid of my truck altogether and buy something else....
???


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4 17th August 08:04
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By all means buy the engine! Then find yourself the cheapest guy you can to
install it for you, I'm sure their are plenty of really sharp guys
collecting unemployment right now who would gladly swap it for $150. Please
post back and let us know how it goes, I can't wait to hear the saga that is
sure to follow. Morons like you cost yourselves more money than you could
ever hope to save.
Bob
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5 17th August 08:04
texassoles
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Thought about it, was advised that Calif. smog could be an issue as I
would have to pass as though I had a V6, would be harder to do with
bigger engine, could get into "modified" legalese BS, etc. Anyone
from Cali know?

If I went with the 302, any ideas on how much more available they are
and what I might pay for new, rebuild, reman or junkyard?

Dave texassoles@yahoo.com
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6 17th August 08:04
texassoles
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From poking around on Google, I got nervous about some of the
rebuilders. I asked my mechanic about an engine from say AutoZone,
was that an option. I'm definitely not up for doing this myself (I
wouldn't trust a vehicle that I put an engine in :-) ) and my guy
basically said he would decline the work involving these engines,
saying he did not want to get in the middle of it, that trying to use
your warranty was a real battle between the owner, mechanic and
seller. He personnally doesn't have any long-term warranty beyond 12
months, so that attracted me to the reman option with the 3 yr/36K
warranty. On the other hand of THAT, a mechanically inclined friend
said not to put too much stock in the longer warranty for the same
reasons my mechanic gave. Basically, the reason the warranty doesn't
cost so much is because they don't plan to redeem it.

I haven't checked Advance yet. Sounds good but again, I get paranoid
when its what I want (cheaper). Anybody got any experience going this
route?

David
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7 17th August 08:04
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[snip]

By far, your best course of action is to buy the highest quality engine
you can, and forget about the warranty. The best warranty is the one
you never have to use. Ask around, get a consensus answer from
independent mechanics you can trust, on who does the best rebuilt
engines in your area and buy one of theirs. Do *not* shop for a rebuilt
engine primarily on price or warranty, it is false economy.
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8 17th August 08:04
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Bob

Hey Bob.... **** OFF!!

ERIC
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9 17th August 08:04
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I own a 90 Bronco II for which I paid $800, and proceeded to give it a brake job
and new tires. I've been driving it all over creation with no problems for
three years now.

I recommend you shop around for another vehicle. I've seen Bronco II's in the
papers and on corners with "for sale" signs for much less than the costs you
seem to be finding for rebuilt engines.

Once you get another car, you can advertise your old Bronco II as a parts car,
for which I'm sure you can find a buyer, thereby offsetting the cost of the
replacement car.

If you happen to find a vehicle similar to yours, you can swap some parts around
to get whatever is best of both.

My recommendation is to retire the car with the bad engine.

Gerard


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10 17th August 08:04
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I'll bet you were up all night to come up with such a witty comeback.
Bob
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