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1 29th February 12:49
picasso
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I wouldn't put two bloody cents in to any big three manufacturers.

They need to trim down their lines, get in line with fuel efficiency
and alternative fuels... and focus on their people and quality. This
can't take the back burner AGAIN just because fuel prices are
falling. Get in line and get some diesel engines in these vehicles.

Ford has over 20 vehicles (Cars, Trucks, Suvs)... they should have
about half of what they do.

They did the correct thing in basically ditching Mercury (In Canada at
least)... that is a waste of time in todays economic situation -- but
they're still doubling up models with the Mariner (Wouldn't
Mountaineer numbers say it all... why add a mercury version of
somehting else people don't want anyway), Milan, Sable, Mountaineer
and to as lesser degree the Grand Marquis. Now they need to trim back
Lincoln and trim some ford models.

Then again, we could cross the line over in to Mazda and see even more
doubling up... but we'll save that for later.

They need to choose between the escape, edge, taurus-x, flex.... trim
that back to one. consider ditching the sporttrac all togather. If
this ranger that was supposed to die 3 years ago must persist... why
not throw in a 4 door model like in other countries... WHY oh WHY
would they invest in a sporttrac model. , the lincoln's version of
the F150, the LT should be dropped completly, and stick with a limited
line on the F150... theres just too many features in the LT that are
doubled up in an LT or a harley davidson F150.

The lincoln line should also be free of the navigator... i'm sure this
is no hot seller... and the MKX.

Where can I get some actual sales or production numbers of these
vehicles by model.
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2 29th February 12:49
alan b. mac farlane
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in article
86141bca-9501-46c3-a7d2-193cc861ff0d...oglegroups.com, Picasso

Bush is tossing money at the rich people to solve the problem they started
and still control ... well Bush is not know for being smart. Pitty is that
they will not impeach him for incompetence. To much money in it for them.
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3 29th February 12:49
mike hunter
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I paid $1.989 today for regular gas. Some states, with lower tax rates,
like Tennessee are even lower
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4 29th February 12:49
moses
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That's right. The big banks created the finance problem. They
lobbied for deregulation, then fleeced the consumers with a lot of
credit with rocketing interest rates and mortgages for low paid people
who couldn't manage the baloon payments that followed.
The Bush administration has funded the fox that's in charge of the hen
house now. Is it any surprise though with Bernanke and Paulson coming
from greedy wall street firms?
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5 29th February 12:49
moses
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Ford hasn't always made the best choices. But, no American
manufacturer can survive in global competion. The reasons are clear
enough. Workers need high compensation because of health care costs
that have gone completely out of control. In addition, all the other
costs of living are higher in the US than in asia or Mexico.
Americas wealth has primarily depended upon its auto manufactuers for
the last 100 years. A country of workers stocking shelves at WalMart
is not a prosperous nation and consumers don't buy.
Consider what we've lost already. Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, Nash,
Kaiser Frazer, Oldsmobile and all those related industries like AC-
Delco, Tower Automotive. The Communists can bury us when the auto
industry is gone.
Ford shares are under 2.00 and Japanese firms are pondering a take-
over.
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6 29th February 12:49
mike hunter
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Another of our goofy lefty kook friends in this NG speaks out. LOL


On Nov 14, 6:08 am, "Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al...@sonic.net> wrote:


That's right. The big banks created the finance problem. They
lobbied for deregulation, then fleeced the consumers with a lot of
credit with rocketing interest rates and mortgages for low paid people
who couldn't manage the baloon payments that followed.
The Bush administration has funded the fox that's in charge of the hen
house now. Is it any surprise though with Bernanke and Paulson coming
from greedy wall street firms?
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7 29th February 12:49
mike hunter
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Khrushchev was wrong when he said we do not need to fight the US, the USSR
we will beat then with their own greed and there own laws. He should have
said Japan will beat then with their own greed and there own laws. LOL


Ford hasn't always made the best choices. But, no American
manufacturer can survive in global competion. The reasons are clear
enough. Workers need high compensation because of health care costs
that have gone completely out of control. In addition, all the other
costs of living are higher in the US than in asia or Mexico.
Americas wealth has primarily depended upon its auto manufactuers for
the last 100 years. A country of workers stocking shelves at WalMart
is not a prosperous nation and consumers don't buy.
Consider what we've lost already. Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, Nash,
Kaiser Frazer, Oldsmobile and all those related industries like AC-
Delco, Tower Automotive. The Communists can bury us when the auto
industry is gone.
Ford shares are under 2.00 and Japanese firms are pondering a take-
over.
On Nov 14, 4:01 am, Picasso <Picasso...@gmail.com> wrote:
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8 29th February 12:50
derek gee
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There are no Japanese firms "pondering a take-over". They are in trouble
too. Nissan announced a second production cut yesterday, and a few days
earlier, Toyota announced it had established a "Emergency Profit Improvement
Committee" led by CEO Katsuaki Watanabe after they posted the lowest profit
in nine years.

Derek
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9 29th February 12:50
mcalisters
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If I were you,

I'd learn correct grammar and spelling before I'd call anyone else
incompetent.
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10 29th February 12:50
dioclese
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That's a decent short term strategy to stay afloat. Let alone all the
layoffs that will result. Does not addresss credit availability to the car
buyer if he/she can possibly afford to and choose to buy a new vehicle.
Does not address the smaller number of potential buyers due to the current
economy or its potential for getting worse, diminishing that potential
number of new car buyers to even less. Other domestic and foreign car
makers are also facing that dilemma now.

The sad story is that ecomomists and corporations alike have in the past and
even now rely on more, more, more. More sales, more profts, more
productivity, more consumers. Yet, others sit back in their easy chairs and
talk about limited resources including petroleum, overpopulation, etc. Its
like there's a dualistic perception of the world battling the population's
opinion on what is best at any given time and cir***stance. Wake me up when
the 2 get together so we can get on with it....
--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
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