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29th January 17:47
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I can imagine it would be a headache to get either Arena or Daggerfall
to run under XP. But I hear now that there is an "XP Patch" that fixes some of the problems. Personally, I do not have much trouble running either on my machines. But then, I use either MS-DOS (v6.22 or v7.10) or Windows 98 SE. I've got mine set up with separate partitions, too, so I can switch the OS. Even my DOS partition is set up with a custom boot menu so I can choose the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS setup. And with some optimizations I can now run most any DOS game I want. In any serious discussion of Windows software, I feel I should mention AXCEL216 and his amazing website at http://www.mdgx.com. Truely, he is a computer genius if there ever was one! Though reading his material takes time and patience. The tips and techniques he provides allows one to squeeze the most out of Windows and/or DOS and remove many bugs and major annoyances. Also, there are some very nifty UNOFFICIAL Service Packs available that take care of some Windows 98 problems. UNOFFICIAL Windows98 Second Edition Service Pack 2.1a (Freeware) http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html "Microsoft has never released a service pack for Windows98 SE. But I made a Service Pack for Windows98 SE users. It contains all Windows98 SE updates from Windows Update site and more." But really, if you plan on using this or any other Unofficial Service Packs, then I recommend reading the relevant forum threads on: MSFN > Unofficial Win98 SE Service Pack http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=91 MSFN > 98 SE SP 2.1a, New Version of 98 SE Service Pack http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61749 Also, if you upgrade that far, maybe you should consider the 98ME2SE upgrade solution: MSFN > 98 SE, transplants newer WinME system files onto Win98 SE http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=46349 MSFN > 98 FE + 98 SE + ME updates + patches + (hot)fixes http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=46581 Of course, for either of those you will need a full install CD for Windows ME, as well as the full install CD for 98 SE. There are other unofficial tweaks, upgrades and bugfixes too, of course. Info and discussion on similar topics can be found MSFN (Microsoft Software Forum Network)at www.msfn.org. But when you're messing around with the OS like this all sorts of things can happen. So you need to backup all the important stuff first. And it may take several tries before you find a configuration you like or even one that is stable. That is, with all programs running correctly, all drivers functioning smoothly, etc. So, I often have a seperate partition just for playing around with alternative OS configurations, tweaks and "Service Packs." And when I do come up with an install I really like I use the NORTON GHOST program from the NORTON UTILITIES suite to make a ghost image of the partition. Then it's a snap to reinstall Windows, should I find the need. I have multiple partitions on my computers, allowing me to switch the OS or a different configuration. IMO, having separate partitions for each OS is almost essential as it's very easy to mess things up otherwise. The only catch is that older OS's like Windows 3.1/95/98/ME are limited to the first three PRIMARY partitions. Genuine DOS is even more fussy as it HAS to be located on the FIRST Primary partition of the first drive. And even then, the DOS partition can only be less than 1 GB or so. More modern OS's like Windows NT/XP and Linux are much more flexible and can either be located on a second drive or, in some cases, practically anywhere. If you are going to use multiple partitions, you really need a "Multi-boot Manager" program. There are several good programs like this, but one I use the most often is this: XOSL - VGA mode multi-OS boot manager http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/boot.htm BTW: Did you know that it is possible to change your XP system to give it separate partitions so it can multiboot different OS's? Of course, if you are going to be making separate partitions from your hard disk, you would need some sort of Partition Manager program. A good free example would be: Ranish Partition Manager http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/ However, creating and moving partitions is not for the faint of heart. At least, for a drive with important data on it. Working with a blank or spare drive is much safer. Windows 95/98/ME can be a real pain to get it to run DOS games correctly. Even when it works it will frequently run out of Conventional Memory, the mouse drivers won't work, or there will be no sound/music. There are workarounds, of course, but they are usually very complicated. Explaining how to solve such problems would probably be an essay by itself. One alternative you might consider is DOSBOX the DOS emulator: DOSBOX Publisher: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1 OS Requirement: Windows 9x/NT/2000/ME/XP/2003 NOTE: Versions for Linux, OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, & others are available! License: Free (GPL) "DOS CPU, Video + Sound emulator for Windows 9x/NT/2000/ME/XP/2003 allows playing old DOS games on Win32 PCs, highly customizable" I haven't tried it myself. I'm still stuck using outdated machines and older Windows. But from what I've read it can be difficult to get the sound and other hardware drivers to work correctly in DOSBOX. And there are reports of frequent crashes. Anyway, I feel more comfortable have a separate partition of REAL MS-DOS - even if it requires the inconvenience of rebooting. Perhaps the easiest way to get an MS-DOS game to run smoothly might be create your own custom boot disk for DOS. Of course, if you have a (3 1/4") floppy drive it's much easier to add the custom drivers (like for sound card) and other customizations. But it's still possible to do that with a bootable CD-ROM. (Although, that's more complication.) Home - AllBootDisks.com-Providing Free Boot Disks from MS-DOS to Windows XP - Download a boot disk now! http://www.allbootdisks.com/ About a year or so ago I was able to download a hacked version of MS-DOS called "Wengier MSDOS 7.1". This is the same version of DOS that's built into Windows 98/SE. So, in theory, it's legal to download if you own a legitimate copy/license to Windows 98 or SE. Subject: Wengier MSDOS 7.1 Available for DL http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/15867.html cn-dos.net > MS-DOS 7.10 http://www.cn-dos.net/msdos71/index.htm Anyway, it seems someone put a lot of legal pressure on these websites and forced them to take off their download links. After several Google searches, I still couldn't find a working download link. (WHY? It's not like MS sells any DOS products anymore! They stopped support for DOS and Windows 98/SE/ME altogether.) However, I would imagine that there are plenty of download links available through P2P (Peer-to-Peer) networks. (Almost anything can be found there.) For those a person needs a P2P file-sharing client, of course. Some examples: eMule http://emule-project.net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emule Shareaza http://www.shareaza.com Lime Wire http://www.limewire.com |
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