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1 29th August 16:17
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Quoting Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.net>:

Yes, there is an explanation:

I pledged to the DPL that I would raise the US$1000 to cover the membership fee.

This indeed is a good question.

One simple answer is that the membership gives Debian representation at one of
the major XML-related standards bodies. And we are the only linux distro with a
voice there. That alone could be quite valuable if more if us were involved.
(This is partially my fault, as I've not done a great job publicizing the
oportunities within OASIS to fellow DDs.)

Very few DDs have chosen to take advantage of the OASIS membership (partly owing
to a lack of publicity on my part), and so it's not clear that everyone should
pay.

In fact, it is my belief that everyone should _not_ be made to foot the bill for
this membership, largely owing to the relatively small level of participation
within Debian. (Which is why I shall work to raise the funds from fellow DDs and
(hopefully) from some corporate entities.

FWIW, there are a number of standards initiatives within OASIS that may be of
direct interest to some DDs. The Open Office File Format Technical Committee
being a case in point. I personally would like to serve on that committee, but
simply do not have the time.

What I am aware of as far as Debian involvement in OASIS is that Ardo van
Rangelrooij and myself are both on the Entity Resolution Technical Committee. The
work of this committee is quite important as we are presently working on the XML
Catalogs specification, which helps XML tools find the resources they need while
processing/editing/etc. XML do***ents. Also, the Debian implementation of XML
catalogs will very likely be included as one example in the OASIS implementation
guide for XML Catalogs. So we _are_ making a difference.

I also serve on the DocBook Technical Committee, where I've recently learned,
e.g., that the next version (5) of DocBook will likely be incompatible with the
present version (4.2), as it will be generated from directly from the Relax-NG
schema form of Docbook. The Relax-NG form will serve as the 'base' form of
DocBook, and any customizations will occur -before- the transformation to, say, a
DTD.

This last paragraph is particularly relevant to the DDP, as they are considering
migrating to some customization of DocBook. Given the info above, they may wish
to wait for DocBook 5, or OTOH 'lock in' a customization to the present version
(4.2).

At any rate, it is my responsibility to see that funds are raised to cover the
US$1000 OASIS membership fee. And I shall see that the funds are indeed raised.

I would like to point out that Debian's OASIS membership puts it in the unique
position of being the _only_ linux distro represented at OASIS, which has now
become one of the major standards bodies as regards XML.

If you've made it this far, thanks for reading this ramble

Hope it helps...

Cheers,
Mark

P.S. In the next few weeks Ardo & I will prepare an Debian/OASIS report for the
DPL, as well as developing means to increase awareness among DDs of the
opportunities they have within OASIS.

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2 29th August 16:18
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[ObPrivate: not particularly private, anymore, is it? Quote me
anywhere; sent to d-private for the continuity of the threading.]

Thank you, to both you and Martin, for putting my mind at ease.
Although I'm not personally convinced yet of the importance of OASIS
membership to our overall mission, I'm at least mollified that others
haven't made this decision on the project's behalf.

Regards,
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Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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3 29th August 16:18
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Hi,

first of all thanks for your long explanation.

What is the current status of XML catalogs?

Cheers,
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4 29th August 16:18
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Quoting Pierre Machard <pmachard@tuxfamily.org>:

Pierre (and others),

Below is the message I just sent to debian-devel, but forgot to cross-post to
debian-sgml & debian-doc. I hope it addresses your questions.

Cheers,
Mark
-================================================== ==============-

Quoting Jochen Voss <jvoss2@web.de>:


You're quite right. Ardo & I (with helpful input from Adam DiCarlo) have been
working on the policy and the infrastructure packages for the last few months.

I have the first policy draft complete, but due to the fact that I'm in the
process of relocating and job-hunting (and am using someone else's floppy-free
Mac to do webmail) I don't presently have the time or the means to check-in or
upload any files.

Early next week Ardo & I should have both of our relative stuff ready and
uploaded. At that time I'll post an announcement to debian-devel.

Cheers,
Mark


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