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1 26th May 21:08
r s gill
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Hi,

I just totally messed my system up by running etc-update.

I plan on doing a re-install since all the new config files look like
nothing out of the install handbook.

My questions is, is it absolutely necessary to run etc-update after
running emerge -u world?

The only reason I didn an etc-update was coz portage said that 60 config
files in /etc needed to be updated.

Gill

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2 26th May 21:08
jeff smelser
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No, you didnt pay attention, and YOU messed your system up. I have been
running etc-update for a long time and nothing like thats happened.

You did a -5.. You replaced all your configs. You dont need to reinstall, you
did that already.. Just configure.. This isnt windows.

Yes, your suppose to look at whats changed, and apply.

60? My god man, how longs it been?

Jeff

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3 26th May 21:09
aaron kulbe
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WHOA!

Don't do a reinstall. If you haven't started yet, then don't. You can
recover from that, especially if it's a recent install.

The files you need to concern yourself with are the ones that you modified
during the install.

Come into #gentoo on FreeNode and ask for help there.

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4 26th May 21:09
r s gill
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Well I don't know how to reconfigure the thing.

The new config files don't look anything at all like the examples in the
install handbook. Specifically, gdm doesn't start on boot anymore and I
no longer have an internet connection.

I installed most of my stuff off the packages cd and once I had
everything i wanted I decided to do the emerge -u world

Gill

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5 26th May 21:09
senectus .
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Calm down.. he's already claim fault for this.

I run it every time yes, Then I overwrite files that I haven't
personally edited and whats left (stuff that I have edited) I normally
delete. This last stage is probably not the best course of action..
but I find that there isn't any tool out there yet that allowed me to
compare and easily line by line replace..


Its possible he's used an old live CD version and this is his first update....

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6 26th May 21:09
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Yes, it is necessary. However, you can't just blindly press the -5 key.
Look at what it wants to update and if you have something that you don't
want to mess with tell etc-update to skip it.

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7 26th May 21:09
thilo six
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Yes it is.
Sometimes the devs change the underlying system.
If you donīt activate those settings you probably will get trouble.

A master rule in usinf etc-update is:
Everything you did _not_ change by yourself, is safe to upgrade.
The files where you did your own settings you will know how to migrate
the files.
Use the new one and redo your settings in there, or throw it away.

Once I messed up my system also with etc-update.
Now I just spend the extra time on updating those files accordingly.

If you are knowing which packages are affected you should remerge them
with:

emerge --noconfmem --oneshot

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8 26th May 21:09
r s gill
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I tried to tell it not to update my xorg.conf files but then it kept
asking me if I wanted to overwrite xor.conf in never ending loop. I
think that was when I hit -5 or -3. Ican't remember now.

Gill

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9 26th May 21:09
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rc.cnf was changed.. edit it and put gdm back in there.. edit /etc/cond.d/net
gets your network back.

Hmm.. Ok.. well, that explains it..


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10 26th May 21:09
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The same way the book says to.. use nano or if your in text mode a lot.. vi


OK.. I'd say that your xfree.config has been re-written so the steps
you followed in the hand book for configuring that should suffice for
fixing this.. keep asking Q's please don't re-install.. for your sake.
The net connection sounds like the "net" file has been re-written...
once again use the steps in the handbook that cover this. yes some of
the lines will be different but it shouldn't be THAT different... and
if you apply a little bit of logic and grey matter to it you should be
able to figure it out.
Your kernel should be fine and if its booting then you should be able
to leave alone the grub stuff, the rest of the system is basically
"brand new" like a brand new install.. so follow only the relevant
bits of the install handbook and you will learn a LOT and save
yourself a re-install.

I too did something this silly a long time ago.. its well worth the
effort to undo it.
(oh and when you have fixed it make copies of your xfree config files etc)

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