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1 9th August 07:17
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Hi all... here's a purely technical question regarding my flammable
Subject: topic. I like pure KDE better than pure GNOME, but I see
that so much more of the software that I use (notably Firefox and
J-Pilot) is built with GTK support than with QT. So I use gnome-panel
with my minimalist Openbox desktop rather than using *any* KDE
components - and I've generalized this to making blanket predictions
of KDE's death due to the fact that GTK seems to be winning the
library war.

The question, then, is this: do I incur significant overhead in
running, a gtk app and a qt app side-by-side? If each has a for
drawing buttons, aren't both the drawButton functions in memory at the
same time, wasting resources?

I imagine that running GNOME and KDE at the same time is significant
wastage since they have multiple layers of SOAP and CORBA and XYZZY,
but what about running GTK apps (e.g. J-Pilot) with KDE? (or,
conversely, Skype with GNOME)?

TIA...

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2 9th August 07:17
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Great! I muchly prefer KDE to Gnome. As much as I'd like to like Gnome
I simply can't. I look forward to be a Linux rebel. (Although I fear I
won't any time soon).

You don't have to install the whole desktop of either. You will do
fine with the libraries and the use flags -kde/gnome -qt/gtk(gtk2).
Apps depending on either set of libraries will have that support
compiled in anyway.


Regards,

Martin S

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3 9th August 07:18
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Heh.. KDE user a Linux rebel? LOL! Well maybe if you just run away from
home (windows)

The real rebel Linux geek is the one not using either Gnome or KDE but
only pure X/console apps and a wm. Even more rebellious would be no X but
a framebuffer (directfb)... And how about using only console apps ;-)

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4 9th August 07:18
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Yes, both sets of libraries get loaded. Throw enough ram at the box and you
should be fine.


Same as above though with Skype (pure Qt app, no KDE), the overhead is
slimmer.

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5 9th August 07:20
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Wow, I'm a rebel!
You can do everything on a framebuffer... even if it is less intuitive
than X. The major problem with X (which becomes critical with KDE or
GNOME) is speed. One year ago I was still using an old Pentium 233MHz
and console mode was way too fast compared to X.

Anyways, I, probably like most rebels, have and X (with fluxbox) running
on terminal 7 but switch to it only when necessary...

On top of that, aren't we gentoo users rebels for not using a "real" distro but compiling everything?


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6 9th August 15:54
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I did! If just is considered 1997 or some such date. :-)


Actually I have Enlightenment installed - I just need to get the
bleedin' X to understand that I have enabled 3-button emulation. (E
without three buttons is no fun).

/Martin S
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